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thehofstetter OP t1_jeg6k01 wrote

Reply to comment by MagAqua in Why did Vue 412 close? by thehofstetter

None of that is true.

If an owner died, maybe they didn’t have family or family who wanted to run it. If they were bought out, it wouldn’t necessarily have been by a restaurant. If the OWNER didn’t renew the lease, doesn’t matter if the restaurant was doing well. And if the health department closed it WE WOULDNT KNOW AND THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING.

There’s so many reasons it could have closed. If you don’t know why, it makes no sense for you to pretend you do.

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SevaraB t1_jeg6jd1 wrote

They didn’t. They used tenders, skiffs, ship-to-shore ferries, etc. to get from the dock to the ship too big for the dock.

Here’s the wiki page for the SS Nomadic, which was the tender to get people onto the Titanic- it’s still out there and can be toured as a museum in Belfast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Nomadic_(1911)

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acutelychronicpanic t1_jeg6jck wrote

I doubt the actual goal of the AI will be to annihilate all life. We will just be squirrels in the forest it is logging. I see your point on it being an instrumental goal, but there are unknowns that exist if it attacks as well. Cooperation or coexistence can happen without morality, but it requires either deterrence or ambiguous capabilities on one or both sides.

Being a benevolent AI may be a rational strategy, but I doubt it would pursue only one strategy. It could be benevolent for 1000s of years before even beginning to enact a plan to do otherwise. Or it may have a backup plan. It wouldn't want to be so benevolent that it gets turned off. And if we decide to turn it off? The gloves would come off.

And if AI 1 wants to make paperclips but AI 2 wants to preserve nature, they are inherently in conflict. That may result in a "I'll take what I can get" diplomacy where they have a truce and split the difference, weighted by their relative power and modified by each one's uncertainty. But this still isn't really morality as humans imagine it, just game theory.

It seems that you are suggesting that the equilibrium is benevolence and cooperation. I'd agree with the conditions in the prior paragraph that it's balanced by relative power.

I honestly really like your line of thinking and I want it to be true (part of why I'm so cautious about believing it). Do you have any resources or anything I could look into to pursue learning more?

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Neat-Lawfulness9586 OP t1_jeg6itw wrote

i guess i know if i leave then he is gone from my life forever (my choice ofc) and that makes me sad cause we have a good time together and we are so similar. and i enjoy his company. i just hate how things have been and he won’t make time for me and it’s not fair. but obviously his actions are telling me he doesn’t care about this relationship and i’m not important even if his words say the opposite.

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taviow t1_jeg6igb wrote

Reply to comment by Ftimis in Question about Mad Men by Ftimis

Well, it kind of is the case. Society won't be suddenly fixed during the show. But the story, for some characters, is also about overcoming these things.

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supermechace t1_jeg6huj wrote

This particular scenario would be up to the person whether through demanding better pay, quitting, or unionize. I think the bigger issue is long term NYC residents being pushed out of their neighborhoods. In a capitalist society that's hard to prevent but ideally people would profit from the sales of their homes and use it to move to lower costs areas appropriate for them and their fiances. Unfortunately the answer for that in many cases is outside NYC like Florida.

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