Lol maybe my favorite Reddit comment I have read.

If there is a seam where the base attaches to the pan it’s not BIFL. All clad is one of those cases where you pay a premium for the name but the quality is second to none.

Ah...the old circle jerk by people who think they know what this sub should be. This happens every two weeks here, where people who have never taken a statistics course apply their Dunning–Kruger knowledge and dismiss everything as survivorship bias sans data. And further lament that since there is no ebay, etsy, facebook marketplace, thrift stores, goodwill or yard sales that one cannot buy survivorship bias products so why speak to them?

The sub that better matches this is you putting your product in the search engine and taking notes with pen and paper. Unless you are searching for someone super esoteric like a wallpaper seam roller, the product has likely been spoken of 30 times a year for 5 years.

I’m going to throw in here, this is something where it’s less about brand names and more about just finding something good. Many good brands have a range of products from Walmart crap to near-professional grade. In terms of stainless pots and pans, you want something with a multi-ply bottom(copper core or similar) that’s significantly thicker than the walls. It should have some good heft. Imagine using that pan to knock out an intruder, if there’s any doubt that the pan warps before the intruders head you want a heavier pan. While some good deals can be had from commercial products, the nice thing about home-marketed pot and pan sets is they’re usually designed to nest well to minimize the storage space needed.

FEIW, I’ve got Kitchen Aid and a Jaimie Oliver branded sets at home. Happy with both heavy multi-layer bottoms, reasonably comfortable handles(the Jamie Oliver handles are a little weird, but it’s not like a knife where you’re holding the handle the whole time), and I’m sure both will last my lifetime for home use.

Top post is a Martha Stewart pan made in China. 🤔

For this copper core are awesome, as they bring the copper performance to induction stoves. I prefer Falk over All-Clad though if you can get it. Otherwise Demeyere Atlantis is specifically optimized for Induction and has great pots regardless

Any sub over 1m users goes to shit.

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A lot of people here recommend KitchenAid mixers, and I've got no doubt that they're great. I also really enjoy my Kenwood one with integrated scale and better attachments slot than the KitchenAid. Comes with a powerful blender as well, maybe an alternative to a VitaMix although I've never tried them side by side

For people in Europe, have a look at Falk for a great copper core alternative. They use 1.9mm copper instead of less than 1mm in All-Clad, so it behaves even better and more like conventional copper cookware

If you're in Europe, I would recommend having a look at a carbon steel pan (e.g. de buyer pro line), and at Falk pots, they're far superior to all-clad in the copper core department. Le creuset for a Dutch oven is great. Some Solingen knives like Wüstof or Güde. Rösle is great for steel utensils. Weck glasses for adaptable storage (hot/cold), plus they're oven safe and can be used with o-rings to serve as jam pots.

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slowcooker: fire & forget

Disagree somewhat, I think any company that has an unconditional guarantee for replacements likely also has a product that stands up to alot of abuse. Otherwise, profits would wane, and they wouldn't be able to stay in business. Thinking of Darntough, arcteryx, and others that I have used for years now and really enjoy.

Doubting the new brands that are trying to create bifl products is part of the reason this sub has turned into a vintage show and tell.

>I was just being silly, I apologize.

I don't buy that apology... for life.

...sorry I couldn't resist.

Also subbed. Good stuff!

I too hate the rivets in our Kirkland stainless steel pans. Likely will never replace them at this point though since stainless pans last forever practically.

What kind of stove do you have ? glass top , electric burner type , gas ? then we can recomend pans . As for me some things I use stainless steel and then I have the gotham pans and they work really well . Only dont burn them like my sister left a pan on the stove ... Boy howdy I had to open every window in my house to get the stank out of the air and the smoke ...

I lost my fucking mind reading this lol

I have a bunch of their triple clad and single clad stuff. It’s great but i still go to the cast iron for all things skillet

Is it the sub or the reality of today’s intentional short life cycle goods?

Excellent idea this. I just really hope it doesn’t become a darn tough/ cast iron/ redwing circle jerk like this place kind of has.

The new buyitforlife is junk, you should just thrift the old one.

In terms of non stick nothing will last forever. I like circulon because of their lifetime warranty replacement program take a picture of the defect submit online and a new pan will show up in a few weeks.

Almost any tri-ply stainless cookware is going to outlast you. Cuisinart, Tramontina, Vollrath, or Calphalon all offer decent budget options. For premium options you have All-clad, Demeyere, Mauviel and several others exist.

Almost anything that isn't nonstick can outlast you if cared for even remotely.

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If you need knives grab a Victorinox fibrox. Even if you decide you want a "better" knife later you'll still find uses for the Vic. Don't buy knives as sets. Get the specific knives you need.