plenty of shit products have a good warranty just to compete. Arc'teryx and Darntough are not good products because they have a warranty. They are good products with a good warranty. The difference is everything.

I'm amazed at how many people upvotes such a simplistic opinion. Advertising works far too well, y'all believe it.

Zwilling is good, I have lots of kitchen stuff from them

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d3 or d5 or copper or what kind? I could probably do the D3 but the others are a little pricey but sound like they're worth it.

Our All-Clad pots/pans are the workhorses of our kitchen. Got a 7-piece collection (2 skillets, 1 saucepan, 2 pots w/lids) as wedding gifts 15 years ago. Have used them daily and they look almost as good as new. A wonderful investment in any cook’s kitchen.

It's not just about how long something lasts, but how good it is. The concept of quality has been completely lost on this subreddit. Your grandmother's 40 year old microwave might technically still work, but it's a massive piece of shit compared to a modern one.

My Bombas socks that were gifted to me four years ago still feel like new! I can’t wear Hanes socks anymore. Too scratchy.

Get a used one off Fb Marketplace for $150. The Pro ones are kinda too big for me to store so I’ve been happy with the smaller one

I'm not familiar with Fissler, but based on the link their non-stick isn't much more expensive than the Zwilling Madura Plus line.

I think the problem is that Reddit has progressively gone to shot in the past 4-5 years.

R/joinitforlife

Let’s open a sidebar discussion….

I’m a big time baker from biscuits to cookies, pies, bread, rolls, everything. I bake probably 3-4 times a week but I’m hand mixing and kneading. Is a kitchen aid mixer worth the price? With how much we cook, I’d want to get the professional mixer but can’t get past the price tag, last I checked the pro mixers were $600. Is this a justifiable expense?

Same experience I have. I have a Boston Acoustics Recepter clock radio which must be close to 20 years old. It's the best sounding music device of its size I've ever heard, and a remarkably excellent radio, but it can only be bought used. Those 20 years are meaningless if 20 years are already used up the moment you buy it.

The opposite is true of the Aiyima A08 Pro. It has amazingly sound quality, but people might reject it out of hand because it's made in China, even though it uses American chips. Worse for this subreddit is it's only a year or so old. So despite the high quality of the device, there is no telling if it has longevity despite its high apparent quality.

And as for production changes over time, Red Wing has come out with cheaper footwear. There are implicit trade offs for the lower price and more immediate comfort of materials like foam, versus more leather for more longevity at greater cost.

We got a set of Anolon 5-ply a few years ago. Works just as good as All Clad and basically half the cost.

I gratefully accept!

Can we get a sub where people can complain about how Reddit used to be, and not fkn post it in BIFL?

Subbed!

Buy a whole set of cast iron cookware. Either that or all clad.

But hey look at my indestructible cast iron pan that has surprising not destructed, since it is literally a solid hunk of metal

r/GoodValue is one of my favorites. Their goal isn't BIFL, but I often can't afford BIFL versions of things, so I get something good for the money. Just kinda tangential to r/BuyItForLife

It went to shit

-Ron Wharton

What happened there?

Seeing Zwilling as a German brand there, I’d add Fissler… bit more pricey but they are working forever. https://www.fissler.com/us/

eh.. not going to lie, but, that does not work, until you wear them and put them to use so seeing old, used, stuff, should be what we expect here.

The goal of course should be, the best products are still made. Always a pity when you see a good quality product that no longer gets made.

But at the end of the day, if you are going tell me something is going to last, I should rightfully expect you to have one that lasted. I think that should be, a benchmark at least.

Just to use an example, I've bought a pair of $150 Caterpillar Boots that only lasted as long as my $50 Brahma's I normally buy from Walmart. Overall, the Caterpillar was a slightly better boot, a bit more comfortable and felt tougher, but they simply did not last.

Legit, I have burned through dozens of Brahma boots, I know about how long they will last me, and, harsh truth is, most other boots, don't outlast them under the same working conditions.

So I would be tossing money at a product that really will not give me a better ROI. Now I am not about to go run around here pissing all over them, or praising Brahma, they are boots, they last about as long as I expect my boots to last, so, nothing amazing, but nothing that bad either. I would not put either of them up as BIFL, but at the same time, they do their job, and do it well enough that there is no reason for me to say they won't do the job you buy them for. They are boots, and they do their job as boots.

But if you look at this site, everyone would tell you, that Redwings and Caterpillar should outlast cheaper boots, I suppose you could say, I just got a bad pair of boots from Caterpillar, which, you know, could be the be case, but doesn't that defeat the idea of it being BIFL, if I can get bad ones, and that just ends up being Survivor Bias by the people that swear by them?

So really, I like seeing or at the very least, hearing someone tell me they had something that endured, that they put them to work, and they held up, and then say "This is a good product"

I really think that should be the baseline of this site.

Again, always a pity when a good product ceases to exist, shame really when that happens.

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