The power move here is to only wash your clothes twice a year, everything in laundry bags, delicate cycle, and line dried.

The tub on mine is definitely corroding. The oxide layer does not protect aluminum from corrosion forever.

I do indeed. Honestly, if Beko, Hotpoint, Haier or Bosch had the same features including the same efficiency (I'm not too fussed about WiFi however), I'd go with them

One thing I can't quite get to work is the "Wash to dry" function so I've contacted Miele

Beko and Hotpoint are on the cheaper end of the market but the Whirlpool group do have genuinely decent appliances. My dishwasher is made by Beko too

Haier is a Chinese company but they do seem quite a high end Chinese company. They also don't have the same features as the Miele that I wanted

I'd make sure your Speed Queen has the ability to reverse the direction of the drum.

I do quite like that it's A+++-10% too, largely because I've also got solar panels and the less energy used, the better

My dishwasher is "D rated" on the new EPC scale. It would have been A+++ rated on the old one

I don't truly care because it cost me £200, and I use it maybe once a week. If that lasts me, that's great. If it doesn't, no biggy because my own BIFL habit is to... not having had a dish washer most of my life. If it fails in five years time it's just another £200 or so

The A rated ones are ridiculously expensive for little energy efficiency gain

Speed Queen was my nickname in high school

Not shocked. I’m sure my washer dryer (that have 10 year warranty on the motors) using them is paid for twice with that energy and water costs.

I hear you, but $1500 for a new Miele washing machine isn't in my budget unfortunately

I calculated it in another comment. The energy usage of this laundy machine is literally twice as high as a current A label laundry machine. Water usage is even more than twice as high.

Nice.

In addition to running a delicate cycle, if you wash your clothes in mesh, zippered laundry bags, it can help a lot to reduce wear-and-tear, too!

I'm really interested in this! Do you like it?

We're in the market for a new dryer and were considering a Speed Queen. But these seem super energy efficient, so they're a strong contender. I'm in the US and wondering how hard it will be to find someone who knows how to service a heat pump dryer, though.

Don't they make a commercial and a residential line now? I'm assuming the commercial ones would be higher quality. I've even seen retired laundromat ones for sale with the coin dispensers still attached.

FYI, Consumer Reports gave one model of Maytag Commercial units a dismal rating. May not be indicative of other models.

I'm thinking Q-tips dipped in alcohol for those tight spaces between the keys.

Hahahaha! Fuck yes.

It's hard to get tone right on the internet and wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't being a prick but was actually curious if what I remembered was even right.

Unless it gets too fancy but usually it’s just a thermostat that needs to be replaced.

Korean*

No, let this be our thing. We hunt each other down on the internet and talk about Speed Queen wash cycles.

> I can understand the idea of “buy it for life” but the running costs of such an old appliance are insane

Oh god yes, even if my refrigerator only lasts 10-15 years your buy it for life fridge from the 70s is using so much energy it would have bought 2 of my refrigerators in that time. Some of the “they don’t last as long” is strictly because of having to use more energy efficient designs and materials that just isn’t as strong as thick heavy steel and cast iron. Some is just bad design or trying to get too fancy like French door fridges with a door ice dispenser.

There are things worth it for buy it for life but refrigerators, old as hell heat pumps, washer and dryer, and dishwashers become very debatable if they are worth it when looking at energy costs and how well they actually work.

Now an expensive pair of jeans that last forever is a no debate it’s worth the cost.

It mentions it on Wikipedia and gives this as an example - https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/speed-queen-introduces-new-top-load-washer-model-with-classic-design-1028253901

100% not arguing because I'm not sure either 😂

I bought my set last year and it was all over the internet to change to Perm Press. You may be right, but I didn't read where they had fixed the issue.

Wasn't that addressed with their 2019 revision after all the bad press they got for the initial change?

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No, there was a government change that was mandated for water conservation.

It's pretty well known and Speed Queen even talks about it. The trick is to take it from Normal and set to Perm Press.

That's the old water level and the way it worked before the mandate.

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