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Unicorns-and-Glitter t1_j6dfz1t wrote

As an American in Europe, I know the answer. First, washing machines in Europe are often under things (dryers, counters), so front loaders save space because things can go on top. In America, most washers and dryers are side by side. Next, while front loaders have gained popularity in the US in the past few years, many people realized there's a reason top loaders were so popular for so long. While front loaders are more water effeciecient (important in Europe), they are not time effecient (very important to Americans who often have one designated day to do all of the household laundry per week). A typical top loader load is between 20-45 minutes. A front loader is almost never less than an hour. This is because front loaders use more water and can get clothes the same amount of clean in less time. Top loaders are also gentler on clothes. A front loader literally tosses clothes around for over an hour. A top loader gentle swirls them around. Over time, a front loader will wear out clothes faster. I've had things "eaten" by my many front loaders, but never in top loaders. Hand wash cycles on top loaders are pretty much as gentle as literally washing something with your hands. All in all, front loaders suit the needs of Europeans, and top loaders fit the needs of most Americans.

I currently have a front loader Miele that's over 20 years old here in Moldova and I love it, but it takes FOREVER. In America, we grew up with a Maytag that was also awesome and cleaned a load in 30 minutes. Neither are bad machines, it just depends on your needs.

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allhailtheburritocat t1_j6df5s2 wrote

Adding to this, “open box” items are also sometimes referred to as “scratch and dent.” For example, Best Buy (in-stores and website) has items labeled as “Open box” in “X” condition (eg: Open Box - like new condition). The terms may vary slightly but I think it’s worth looking into.

Anecdotally, I bought an open-box iPad towards the beginning of college. The price new was about $1250 (pre-tax) and the open box was listed for around $1100. After negotiating with a manager (Bestbuy managers can negotiate on open-box prices, at their discretion), they sold it to me for $997 (after-tax). The catch? The box was missing a thin piece of foam to cover the screen. The iPad itself was in perfect condition and is still going strong today.

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NickCharlesYT t1_j6degci wrote

Yeah this is exactly why we skipped the commercial options when we bought our washer and dryer last month. Ultimately went with a cheaper LG front load set that was 1/3 the cost of the speed queen set. Sure it might only last 10-12 years, but the savings in water and destroyed clothes will be worth it in the long run.

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