Right? OP probably needs to look at use—most BIFL products are still going to die within average lifetime when they’re treated like crap.

Glorious brand

I use razer deathadders for more than a decade. No computer mouse is BIFL but they last five years or so of heavy use and are around $50

Bosch. I'm in a place that the dishwasher must be 15 years old and runs like a champ

it's so pretty too!

I use this one Steel Series Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse. I've been using this mouse for a long time; double braided nylon cable and zero fray.

Ah, gotcha. So not really a dishwasher thing, more of a mishandling thing.

When I was a teenager I broke the one my parents got as a wedding gift by accidentally dropping a spoon in it while it was on. I still feel dumb and shameful when I think about it.

OP has said they have thin glasses that others load into the dishwasher, I assume ineptly.

I've been happy with Miele. Lots of people seem to like Bosch too.

So how are the glasses getting broken in there?

Miele. It's like having a panzer in your kitchen.

I have the exact same bag for my hobby and I have it since at least 10 years. The only thing is the straps that is 1/4 ripped off :( I want to change it for a better color!

I took it with me to school and work every time. In and out of backpack.

I didn't strangle hookers with it though. That might be it.

I cannot recommend that video highly enough!

The jets in the various models in various people's homes I've used have all been gentle enough so they don't blast wine glasses over (and I normally take care when loading so they don't topple over easily). Only small plastic cat bowls get turned over by the jets.

Bosch is the answer. Ours is going on 11 years old. Things has been perfect except for wear and tear damage done to it.

Even after years of being in and out of a laptop bag several times a week for years? I think most of the people talking about their long lived mice have theirs parked at their desks at home 99.9% of the time. Travel is rough on cords. I go through at least a few charging cords per cell phone, and a corded mouse isn't going to be much different.

I got a Bosch. Happy with it since it's silent, but I'd check with consumer reports and get the model number. Keep in mind your local quality of water and how often you operate it will dictate how long it will last.

Also if your changing the dishwasher, I'd make sure to keep the old connection to the current dishwasher (even hooked to the internal plumbing) since some of the new kits don't play well with older plumbing.

Bosch in whatever flavor you like. I have a 300 series, with the physical buttons and classic red text display. Love it, it's incredibly easy to clean compared to others I looked at. Top tray thingy is super useful too. My buddy has a 500 series, more sleek look and little light indicator is kinda neat. Neighbor has the 800 series with the fancy auto door popper. That'd be pretty handy but wasn't worth the extra cost for me. The parts website for them is amazing, you can directly order anything.

No matter what machine you have if you are using detergent pods, I would almost bet money you are not optimally washing your dishes. Watch this video and learn everything about how dishwashers actually work and why you're likely doing it wrong - but the TLDW is to squirt/sprinkle some detergent in the door instead of a pod alone. I started doing this after watching that video and the difference is astounding. I pulled out the manual from my Bosch and they even say to do this.

thank you.

Thanks. I think the 800 is the one I saw, I'll double check.

Thanks, I'll check that brand.

> I highly doubt $450 will get you a BIFL dishwasher

I can absolutely say that it will not. I paid $800 for my current kitchen-aid. It still went tits up on me.

Bosch or Mieli. Our Bosch 300 is around 10 years. No real problems except for the cheap plastic top cover breaking around year 7, I replaced myself.

Is that because the jets in there are just that powerful?