Recent comments in /f/Connecticut

iwanttobehappy2022 t1_j4xvh0k wrote

I will add that a lot of old people that when they come to the point in which they no longer live independently on their own, do not want to spend their money and wealth they want to pass on independent/assisted living or convalescent home. Those places are hella expensive. In my experience, it’s taken their family members to have many conversations to convince them that they (their family) don’t need their wealth and that they should spend it on living at a place in which they can get the care they need and live comfortably. The older person takes even more convincing if their kids or grandkids wish to pay for their independent/assisted living or convalescent home. Add in the fact, no one wants to need to get help bathing or wiping. No one wants to move out of their home and give up the freedom they had their entire adult lives. It sucks.

I could see an older person trying to get a diagnosis to get dying assistance to avoid having to go to a living facility or home. To be honest I probably would.

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Darkling5499 t1_j4xu7hs wrote

Multiple states already allow this, and I don't see why this is even an issue: if you're terminally ill, there's no legitimate reason to not let you leave this world with your dignity intact as opposed to being hooked to a machine + tied to a bed for 6 extra months.

my only issue with euthanasia / assisted suicide (and for the US it's not an issue, really) is when the government gets involved and starts pushing it on people deemed too expensive to treat.

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Ftheyankeei t1_j4xtdti wrote

Based on the last time it was proposed this legislation would require either two or three verbal commitments for the patient after thorough review of their mental health and in different time periods (there's a set amount of time they must wait before the process can even continue upon application). Most importantly a patient needs a diagnosis of a terminal illness with professionally diagnosed six months or less to live before they're even allowed to apply, significantly more strict than Canada's. Once the medication is administered the patient can choose not to take it; in Oregon, only 60% of people who complete the application process end up ending their lives.

Tiktok is gonna Tiktok, as a formerly suicidal teen I can imagine making a similar post when I was younger. I'm concerned for the kids but I'm not going to let them determine my views on policy without doing more research. And, as with any other system, the possibility of abuse in my view is miniscule compared to the overall benefits provided to people in pain. I can't answer for Canada but after reading the fascinating article you linked I am confident this negative response will make their policies more of an exception than the rule.

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CTRealtorCarl t1_j4xtdqi wrote

2 for Bethany...one is complete legend "The Downs Road Monster" having to do with a creepy abandoned road that would have connected Bethany to Hamden.

Another is "Murder by a madman" which is written on a gravestone in Sperry Cemetary... this one is less legend and based on truth but worthy of legend if you look it up!

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iwanttobehappy2022 t1_j4xrxke wrote

So this would exclude those with dementia or Alzheimer’s because the illness usually has progressed to the point that it’s observable by them, their family, and doctors. Because it affects their ability to think and process information a long with their behavior…I would imagine they would not be competent to make the decision.

What about someone that in old age declines like loosing the ability to walk or vision, and no longer can take care of themselves (like dress themselves, clean themselves after the bathroom and bath), they wouldn’t be able to get assistance? What about someone with RA or tinnitus? What about someone that’s hella old, all their friends are dead along with their spouse, physically are declining and wishes to pass on which their family knows about and supports?

What about someone young that finds out they will 100 percent develop a terminal illness and wishes to pass on before symptoms appear?

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Malapple t1_j4xpker wrote

I’m all for reform, vote accordingly.

How does that help someone, right this instant?

I do not think it’s a false dichotomy. That implies I could choose to have US medicine reform and choose not to.

And while some people actually do advocate killing others, I’m not. I’m speaking for myself, in a situation where survival beyond days is impossible but hospitals will still incur huge charges. And I’m also not talking about “no heroic measures”.

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OldHagFashion t1_j4xk60n wrote

> I do not want to saddle my family with crushing debt generated in my last few weeks of life.

I am shocked at the readiness with which people accept this train of thought, as if the debt is a natural inevitability. It’s a false dichotomy—we should be eliminating medical debt entirely and thus eliminating that dilemma. It is a sign that we really live in a dystopia that people have resigned themselves to medical debt and found it easier to just kill people rather than reform medical care in the US.

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