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Novaleaf t1_j15x8dl wrote

if it's easy to remove the outer sheathing, you could simply wrap membrane around, ok if it's over the housewrap.

But the most important part is the pressure treated plate. Since you do have that you are most likely good to go. Especially since you have such wide eaves (which is really great, props to you for doing that), which will help keep water away from the walls so probably no problem would ever occur.

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wotoan t1_j15w6v7 wrote

No, a whole house system can (and should) have floor thermostat elements for precisely this reason. Cycling an underfloor heating system on ambient air temperature alone with a naive (non PID) controller leads to these type of issues.

A stable underfloor heating system will have the floor at a constant temperature slightly above the desired ambient air temperature. Heat losses in the house lead to a steady state equilibrium. You can do that with an expensive controller and an ambient air sensor, or a cheap controller and a floor sensor. A cheap controller and an air sensor, like this case, will over and undershoot and be miserable. This can be moderated by high thermal mass systems but is not eliminated.

The problem here is how it’s being controlled, not any fundamental failure of underfloor heating.

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JohnVerSteeg OP t1_j15vjcu wrote

Yes! And it was such a valuable learning experience for many different skills -- framing, shingling, doors and windows, all sorts of stuff. It really was like learning how to build a house in miniature. I feel so much more comfortable tackling something like finishing a basement.

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1-760-706-7425 t1_j15tr1v wrote

> What people should realize too is the unpaid labor that went into this. Because you did it yourself, you saved money, but you spent your time and energy, which costs money elsewhere, so that is always a cost we all ignore.

Yes but OP also gained experience through the process and honed their skills. This is a benefit we all ignore.

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mynamewassunset t1_j15qz61 wrote

Absolute top shelf post and finished project. So good!

The roof framing photos are particularly helpful to me, reconsidering the amount of bracing for gable end overhang on a greenhouse we hoped to construct. TY

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Floopthecoop t1_j15qgf6 wrote

You can get 2 types. One is for heating the room. Generally the higher wattage cable. And one is for comfort for walking in tiles lower wattage cable. . Of course it will still heat room but is not meant to be the sole heating method. Also you usually get 2 thermostat sensors the one goes in the screed under the tile and you get it to operate off floor temperature. The display usually has another which operates off of ambient temperature of room and you can choose which one to use to switch on and off

https://www.theunderfloorheatingstore.com/electric-underfloor-heating/underfloor-heating-mats

See this link here. Lower wattage is just for ancillary heating of floor

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katarh t1_j15pqti wrote

Wonderful job, and thank you for sharing! I especially appreciate the quality assurance team doing their inspections throughout the process. You are already paid up in taxes thanks to their excellent work.

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NukEvil t1_j15op5z wrote

That's why I had a shed company build my storage shed for me. It cost me just a tiny bit over $9k for a 12' by 16' with 7 foot walls. And they added a free shelf/work table across the back for giving them a good google review. Why do all the work myself and spend weeks planning, permitting, worrying about costs and materials, etc when I could have someone else do all that for me?

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Alwayssunnyinarizona t1_j15jxra wrote

Cheapest option with items you can probably get easily is a couple 2x4s and a heavy hammer. Secure the boards on either side, and then hammer. Make sure the bottom of that fixture is secure and isn't moving (much) when you hammer.

You'll get it pretty close to original, though may risk knocking the bottoms out.

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SuzieQbert t1_j15j3g4 wrote

I suppose that could be true if the "underfloor heating" OP is talking about is simply a floor warmer, and not the heat source for the home. A low-power electric warmer in conjunction with forced air might accomplish what you're describing.

However, the phrasing of this post certainly implied to me that this floor would be the way that home will be heated. If the heated floor is what warms the house, by nature it must be connected to a thermostat that measures the ambient room temperature. In that case it will cycle on and off based on the air temperature reaching a certain level.

Which brings us back to the issue I described. It's comfortable to be surrounded by still air at 22⁰C because it is a poor conductor of heat so it doesn't remove much heat from your skin. Pick up a rock that's 22⁰C and it will feel cool to touch. Hop in a bath that's 22⁰C and you'll be pretty unhappy. This principle means that a tile floor will always feel cool unless it's warmer than the air in the room.

So, I suppose I could add to my earlier comment: what OP is hoping for could be accomplished by decoupling the two goals: warm floor through one mechanism, warm air through another.

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Supperfly17 t1_j15fzsu wrote

Not sure if anyone commented, but your baseplate for the walls, it didnt look pressure treated. Was it? Shed looks amazing. 10x14 is perfect size for that yard. Great job.

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Alwayssunnyinarizona t1_j15frjr wrote

I think you'll need something fairly heavy duty, like a 4-6" bench vise rather than simple grips.

How soon do you need this fixed? If you've got more than a few days, I'd sit on it and think about it before going out and buying a bunch of tools unnecessarily :)

A bench vise is expensive if you don't have one already, there might be easier/cheaper ideas that take a bit longer to think of.

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armouredqar t1_j15fqu2 wrote

The underfloor heating - was this electric set in under the tile, or liquid from a boiler?

If it's from a boiler, sounds like something set up incorrectly to me.

If it's electric as others have suggested - should be set to some lower output level and to come off and on more frequently, so that the tiles at least stay warm. Is this underfloor the only source of heat in the room?

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