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ClemDev t1_j4jg5i0 wrote

Well you do also have the worst past and we had to beat your ass back into your box twice so it would be hard to try and deny it. Germany still acts like a puppy that shit on the couch in world politics. You’re all scared to catch your own reflection in the mirror.

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Terpsmcfee t1_j4jbf5w wrote

Great film, have seen at least twice.

Should be a cautionary tale for our digital age. A tool we created to cause major mischief to the Iranian nuclear program, comes back on us in the future!

Although we used the software to an effective result, we more or less published it’s code and other actors have appropriated this worm and will use as they see fit.

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ramriot t1_j4j9wr8 wrote

My opinion is immaterial here, the evidence & timing thereof though suggests a very different scenario to what a surface description would suggest.

Imagine if you will that you are a pair of nation states about to pay real money to devise a way of suspiciously attaching Iran's enrichment program. One very important factor in that is that you keep your technique secret so that should it be needed again later, say with North Korea it can be deployed successfully.

Thus when what is now called Stuxnet was first developed around 2005 it was only as pernicious as needed while being very careful to leave no traces. It's introduction to the Iranian Scada control network in summer of 2007 was reported to have been via an Iranian mole working for the Dutch intelligence organisation or via another operative under that person's control.

Now fast forward to 3 years later in 2010 when code snippets start surfacing from a virus that seem to have payloads targetting Scada control systems. The source zone of this infection appears to stem from Iran and communicating networks. The theory is that it was an inadvertent spread from an Iranian engineer who against orders took a computer previously part of the air-gapped network hone & connected it to the internet.

Within a year of public identification there were many variants of this virus, perhaps reverse engineered from samples & used by others to create further Havok.

By hey, don't trust me it's all here.

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PhillipLlerenas t1_j4j6xjq wrote

Germans did a masterful work of protecting its Nazis for decades after World War II.

And when you did bring them to trial you were amazing at giving them 3-5 years in prison for murdering hundreds of thousands of Jews.

Sit down.

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ihaveacrushonmercy t1_j4j3uau wrote

Now this is gangster... On the downside though, your son may have a criminal mind. But used with moral he can accomplish great things in life.

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saluksic t1_j4imujk wrote

This was a virus designed to break Iranian centrifuges. The headline makes it seem like a) it wasn’t designed to be present in other systems, and b) it broke other systems. Neither of these is true. It was designed to spread indiscriminately, so as to reach the air-gapped centrifuges eventually. It did that. It was designed to only affect Iranian centrifuges. It did that, too. You either think attacking only Iranian centrifuges used for making weapons in nefarious or you don’t. If you think damaging Iran’s weapons program was bad, then you think stuxnet was bad; otherwise it was good/benign.

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80burritospersecond t1_j4imm1t wrote

It's also kinda poor design to have all your emergency stop smash buttons be nothing but PLC inputs when they should be independently cutting power to the prime movers in whatever system is being controlled.

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jaceapoc t1_j4ikmjd wrote

I wish Alex Gibney would keep on making documentaries like this one... His recent stuff has been meh, imo... He's good at making these investigative docus, he should focus on that genre instead of biographies that nobody really cares about I think...

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Admiral_Minell t1_j4ieecf wrote

Yeah agreed, mentioned by the anonymous NSA person, the private firm guys talk about finding version history, and someone even claims to quote Biden.

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geovurst t1_j4idije wrote

Darknet Diaries podcast has an episode on this topic. The episode is titled Ep 29: Stuxnet.

I can highly recommend it.

I have been listening to it on Spotify but I believe it's on Apple Podcasts too.

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duffmanhb t1_j4i5jof wrote

That's interesting. I had no idea that it was recoded and rereleased into the wild. Could it have been Israel? It definitely doesn't sound like something the US would do. Maybe Iran after discovering it tried to repurpose it?

I was always under the impression that it got out because the original attack vector was via a USB with some boss's naked wife on their, incentivizing him to bring it into the office... Then they also brought it out

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