I really liked the one about how volcanos have influenced human culture.

Personally I love his films, but he has a very different style than typical documentarians. If you aren’t familiar with his work I can see how one can come away a little confused.

Very beautiful. Very powerful.

Welcome to Werner Herzog films lol.

Also consider watching “fires of Kuwait” if you were interested in the topic. An interesting take on how different fire services approach a problem

It doesn't really have a narrative I would not say, more like a theme. Great visuals, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere.

Yep. It was a 400/600 level class. My university referred to them as "graduate integrated." I successfully took several of them as an undergrad.

Are you for real?....i described the fact that not everyone even had access to computers back then much less had familiarity with coding. There was no computer science prerequisite required for this psychology course, it was not described as a computer class in the course description, and you're coming at me saying i was "unprepared" as if it were a failing on my part? That's an odd take on inappropriate instruction. After i graduated, i went on to change fields and get a master of science in nursing from an "elite" university and can assure you the "problem" with that course was that instructor.

>i took a graduate integrated cognitive psych class in the dark ages when you had to type in an exact web address to go anywhere on the internet

You took a graduate level class and were surprised by the work?

And a 400-level class is the end of undergrad study. And if it were a graduate course like you say, it was probably a hybrid 400/600 level course.

So you took a class that you were unprepared for and are blaming the teacher? That's odd. No wonder people are leaving the academy.

I only learned about the student loans for private high schools a few years ago. I think the doc said tuition was around $600/mo which would be "cheap" for private school where i live and, probably, a stretch for many of these families. The "difference" would be the debt would be the parents and not taken on by under-age kids.

Have you visited any of the the elite schools? Toured Stanford with my kid. They'll provide up $50K start-up money to students with a developed business plan. They also allocate $5K/yr travel and living expenses for accepted middle & lower income students. Regrettably, my kid didn't get in. We're middle class and it is absolutely a golden ticket.

The "point" is that there are about 70 universities in the US which guarantee to meet 100% of financial need without loans. "Need" includes tuition, books, housing, food, and some living expenses (travel, clothes, etc). You asserted the universities took their tuition and it didn't matter to them if the students were successful or not; that's not how elite universities work if you're middle or lower income. Source: my kid attended & graduated from an elite university and we paid $zero.

I did some substitute teaching and at some high schools, many of the kids can barely read or write. Yet they’re still encouraged to go to college.

Ok? Pretty sure these families probably took loans to go to these fake private high schools so what’s the difference? Also, tuition isn’t even close to being the only cost associated with going to university so I’m not sure what your point is.

My sister is a high school math teacher and she said they're specifically told they aren't permitted to fail more than 10% of their class in any given semester. She said she hands out A's to students who honestly try regardless of whether they succeed in math. She's been "counseled" at work for "giving" out too many D's....she had the point out the kids were all actually failing.

You’re absolutely right; that’s most definitely a benefit that I forgot to mention.

I wish the documentarian had gone back to track the students which had already started at the elite universities to track their performance overtime. How many completed their degrees? How many went on to attend grad school, etc? They only really follow up with the one student at Yale and it's briefly mentioned that he has to seek tutoring (no shame in the tutor game).

>College mismatching is one of the worst things to happen to poor black students.

What really is missed out is that I get they want ivy leagues because it guarantees a good life, but just having a degree is already something that helps. It doesn't grant, but it helps. high school friend, told me that Ivy league doesn't make him feel smarter, but the fact is he was able to network is decision makers and people.

And he also said, at least what was verbal to him, is that his education didn't help, it just got him the connections to put his resume in front of people. And he only got one job offer. I think of, 8-9 interviews?

> who seems to have adjusted to Yale

True, I looked up a couple of interviews and they were doing a LOT of self taught curriculum to catch up. Rightfully so, but to do that given the circumstances is a trait that shows they'll be just fine. That type of self starting and adversity is amazing and always wins

Just watched this:

1. they tried to spin it and that is absolutely not okay.
2. it is a dull drag at times, however it does highlight a lot
3. how these people are not in prison I'll never understand
4. you learn about how a sob story is manipulative rather than qualifications

You must not have got the memo that the elite universities no longer use loans as a part of their financial aid packages. Admission to elite universities are actual golden tickets if you're from a middle or lower income family. My kid graduated from an "elite" university; we paid ZERO dollars.

I had a double major in psych and sociology as an undergrad. I made pitiful money as a social worker in a nursing home and i borrowed money so it was a double whammy. The one thing i told my kid about higher educations was, "Don't get a degree in a field where all you can do is 'think deep thoughts.' You can think deep thoughts at the public library for free."

I assure you tuition at elite schools is paid in the form of grants and scholarships by the university. Low and middle income students aren't taking out loans to pay tuition.

You left out the part about if you get into a golden ticket school and you're from a middle or lower income family, the financial aid package is all grants and scholarships. The truly elite schools no longer use student loans as part of the financial aid package.

My kid also attended an "elite school" and graduated with ZERO student debt.

As an undergrad, i took a graduate integrated cognitive psych class in the dark ages when you had to type in an exact web address to go anywhere on the internet. Back then, to use a computer i had to go to the lab because i couldn't afford to buy one. In that class, the professor was attempting to teach us to program digital neural networks. I had limited knowledge of computers outside of word processing which was still f-key driven. I dropped that class about 3 weeks in and never looked back. It was totally inappropriate for a 400-level class.

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What an odd analogy. I paid for my bandaid. Which is coincidentally how i paid for both mine, and now tje bandaids of those incapable of paying for their bandaids.

Middle class parents are working multiple jobs in order to pay the tuition at a Catholic HS that is known for their athletic teams. The boys are wrapped up In sports. They are skating on thin academic academic ice. The non athletic students are on the receiving end of verbal and physical abuse.

I see many teachers talk to students about bullying. I stressed there would be no fat shaming. (Since I am chunky.) The boys say snide and cruel things until they cross the threshold. Then they smile and greet me.

I worry about this generation.