Recent comments in /f/Documentaries
[deleted] t1_j616zft wrote
Reply to comment by CryMore36 in India: The Modi Question (2023) - BBC investigates Indian PM Modi's rise in the Hindu Right-Wing stratosphere and deadly Anti-Muslim and Anti-Sikh Politics [00:59:00] by CryMore36
The link no longer has the footage.
[deleted] t1_j616g09 wrote
Reply to India: The Modi Question (2023) - BBC investigates Indian PM Modi's rise in the Hindu Right-Wing stratosphere and deadly Anti-Muslim and Anti-Sikh Politics [00:59:00] by CryMore36
Where can we watch the documentary now? The BBC seams to have stopped the stream.
[deleted] t1_j6019sp wrote
shuntmp_7kest t1_j5zfvfq wrote
Reply to comment by dumbredditer in India: The Modi Question (2023) - BBC investigates Indian PM Modi's rise in the Hindu Right-Wing stratosphere and deadly Anti-Muslim and Anti-Sikh Politics [00:59:00] by CryMore36
Firstly, learn to use the word right. Stop reading the 7th century book and know the murder/genocide is not same
Sikhs were murdered by Congress
Muslims got killed as Hindus did by state/central forces. First, Muslims burnt the train coaches with people alive on it. forgot about it?
Hindus hit back hard and Muslims also participate in the game they love. States gets in and start stopping the riots and shoots people down to quell it
shuntmp_7kest t1_j5zez8y wrote
Reply to comment by zalinuxguy in India: The Modi Question (2023) - BBC investigates Indian PM Modi's rise in the Hindu Right-Wing stratosphere and deadly Anti-Muslim and Anti-Sikh Politics [00:59:00] by CryMore36
> I'm too smart.. I'm too smart
lmfao. You are the self certified prophet.
Is communism present in your trash can? Every moron growing up wants to be a "bloody Communist" and then goes to work in real life and wants to be a "capitalist".
LegitPancak3 t1_j5tvdt7 wrote
Reply to India: The Modi Question (2023) - BBC investigates Indian PM Modi's rise in the Hindu Right-Wing stratosphere and deadly Anti-Muslim and Anti-Sikh Politics [00:59:00] by CryMore36
How can I watch it in the US? Is using a VPN the only way?
chrisp1j t1_j5tlo7c wrote
Reply to comment by CryMore36 in India: The Modi Question (2023) - BBC investigates Indian PM Modi's rise in the Hindu Right-Wing stratosphere and deadly Anti-Muslim and Anti-Sikh Politics [00:59:00] by CryMore36
It has been removed. What’s the deal with these tech companies bending to political will.
Constant_Long952 t1_j5s7bku wrote
Reply to comment by OllyDee in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
Awesome documentary showing the raw power and sheer guts the group B drivers AND spectators had regardless of death occurring on both sides. A real testament to how dangerous and wild things got in the 80’s.
Sadoksad t1_j5r0c2v wrote
raymondcy t1_j5qrnl6 wrote
Reply to comment by B33Man88 in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
I have not, but I see it's not only well regarded but also directed by John Frankenheimer.
I have put that on my list, thanks for the recommendation.
Edit: Turns out that movie is in HD on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5U98QpKRSI
B33Man88 t1_j5qqpbs wrote
Reply to comment by raymondcy in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
Have you seen Gran Prix? Rush is the Striptease to Gran Prix’s Showgirls
B33Man88 t1_j5qq4ya wrote
Reply to comment by raymondcy in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
Link or is doesn’t count. /s
WhippWhapp t1_j5qi91y wrote
ghostmrchicken OP t1_j5q94lz wrote
Reply to comment by raymondcy in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
> For the third point, you might be confusing that with the incident Niki Lauda had where he walks out based on exactly what you said, rain conditions. (edit: this is covered in the movie “RUSH” by Ron Howard - which possibly might be the greatest racing movie of all time).
Given that Senna and Rush are the only two F1 films I’ve seen I stand corrected. Funny as I was typing it out I was thinking to myself didn’t Senna like racing in the rain but I couldn’t recall the conflict so I went with what I thought it was.
raymondcy t1_j5q7drk wrote
Reply to comment by ghostmrchicken in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
The longer one has an extended version of Prost's interview in the middle somewhere which provides a lot of context to the film that otherwise wasn't there. That is perhaps it's most glaring omission.
For the third point, you might be confusing that with the incident Niki Lauda had where he walks out based on exactly what you said, rain conditions. (edit: this is covered in the movie "RUSH" by Ron Howard - which possibly might be the greatest racing movie of all time).
In the Senna film (not sure which version) Senna walks out of the drivers meeting after a heated discussion about going out on the shoulder of the track by accident (there was a run off area in the chicane so if you missed the turn you didn't go into a wall). Senna was penalized for that and I think ultimately lost the championship because of that penalty. While other drivers freely got away with the whole thing as the F1 President wasn't a very big Senna supporter and personal friends with Prost. Senna walked out of that meeting - while his fellow drivers were in agreement with him.
Unbelievably, the fucking F1 actually wanted Senna to TURN AROUND and GO AGAINST TRAFFIC just to get back on the chicane.
Edit: One other fun fact, Senna excelled at racing in the rain. Him and Schumacher would run laps around the entire field when it rained. You can argue about what percentage the car wins races over a driver but when it rained those two drivers clearly proved they were exceptional drivers regardless of the cars performance.
ghostmrchicken OP t1_j5q51pk wrote
Reply to comment by raymondcy in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
I noticed this as well. There’s definitely two versions. I first saw the longer one on Netflix years ago. I re-watched this version before posting.
Parts I remember being edited out:
- Details about Senna’s childhood, his start in go-kart racing, how his career eventually progressed to F1 and his father’s financial support early on
- His marriage and divorce
- Perhaps most important - a rather long scene where the drivers object to racing in the rain due to the increased risk of an accident. I forget which event this was at. The drivers request a meeting with the organizers to discuss the issue. I think there are parts of Senna talking to the other drivers and I’m pretty sure Senna walks out of the meeting at one point.
raymondcy t1_j5pzakw wrote
Reply to comment by B33Man88 in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
There are actually 2 versions of this movie. The second UK version is extended by almost an hour - 162 mins vs 106.
In that they have a far better and greater conversation with Prost specifically and it feels a lot more balanced than the shorter version. No idea why they didn't release the longer version everywhere.
grawlyx t1_j5pnle9 wrote
Reply to comment by Phil_Ivey in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
I know absolutely nothing about F1 or any of its racers and I could tell Prost was getting assassinated
That said I do think it was the filmmakers' intention to ground the experience as if you were viewing it from Senna's perspective, so them vilifying him is a method to achieve a sense of Senna's subjectivity vs. an objective stating of facts and reality
activprime t1_j5plc62 wrote
Reply to Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
My favorite biographical documentary. A documentary made with class, taste, empathy and solemnity, which did Senna justice. Outstanding from start to finish.
JCDU t1_j5pf6bf wrote
Reply to comment by OllyDee in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
Group B was utter madness, there's been a few good documentaries over the years that are worth checking out but the names of them escape me now!
passporttohell t1_j5pccg6 wrote
Reply to comment by B33Man88 in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
I remember watching all of this play out back in the day, Senna was renowned for engaging in dangerous intimidating tactics against other drivers and received a lot of valid criticism for it. I agree with the unwarranted vilification of Prost, he was one of the more sensible drivers back then.
I think Senna was a remarkable driver and it's unfortunate his life ended the way it did, but in my mind there have been, and continue to be other remarkable drivers out there.
sneubs123 t1_j5pbgxl wrote
Reply to Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
I've seen it probably 5 or 6 times now and it's still so good. It really seems like someone filmed his life for the purpose of this documentary, even though that's of course not the case.
ColorIsNotReal t1_j5p8v52 wrote
Reply to Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
one of my all time favorite documentaries. the footage is incredible
[deleted] t1_j62isuo wrote
Reply to India: The Modi Question (2023) - BBC investigates Indian PM Modi's rise in the Hindu Right-Wing stratosphere and deadly Anti-Muslim and Anti-Sikh Politics [00:59:00] by CryMore36
[removed]