Sounds like an awesome experience!

MORGAN FREEMAN is the voice of God. Literally.

Ummmm? Hungary? Italy? Le Pen? Poland? Putin? If that’s not fascism then you truly are naive.

Your first sentence sounds like a condemning of the documentary as a white washing.

I see what you mean now.

Yup state socialism sucks

We went to Shopsins at the Essex market a while before he died. Our kid ate a ton of bacon and he sent someone to get her a toy. It was a bath toy- we’ve still got it 5 years later. The food was great and the atmosphere was warm (lively conversation all around and his family was in and out). It was a nice place and def felt like a locals spot. The cookbook is worth getting- a good read for sure

He's also extremely good.

How about you watch it.

When the show started my first thought was, "Oh, yes. That's Peter Coyote." But, I think Liev Schreiber is my favorite.

Oh no, i said something about apartheid Israel, i must be an anti semite. GTFO

I'm glad to hear that. I never would have imagined they'd see the light of day given the accounts of his previous 2 war films. Maybe my impressions were incorrect, I appreciate the edification.

But it was surely reasonable to be skeptical when the myth of the lost cause has been documented to the point of nauseum. And Vietnam is exactly the propaganda one would expect in an account where most know nothing of the actual conflict other than that it was unpopular. That's not to say they aren't entertaining or that they don't contain aspects of interest. When one proclaims to offer truth value in regards to the most significant events in modern history you have a tremendous moral duty to the elevation of historical memory; when such claims are accompanied by mere shadows you have only reinforced the dominate illusions.

Yes but the topic of the documentary is the US and the holocaust, so that was mainly what Burns focused on

Sure, I think many people can benefit from watching this documentary as it is produced very well from an information and entertainment standpoint, and shows sides of the Holocaust many people likely haven’t heard. However, bringing up Israel on a post about the Holocaust like this is most certainly not done with humanitarian intentions, and it just goes to show how much the pro-Palestinian movement is influenced by antisemitism.

They literally discussed the Nazis using Jim Crow as a model, discussed with experts and survivors about the topic of the US not bombing the concentration camps when they had gotten very detailed information about them, in addition to discussing Breckinridge Long’s involvement in denying Jewish refugees (and lying about it) and followed the timeline throughout the 3 episodes about both how the US didn’t allow many refugees and how reported/underreported the genocide was by media in America at the time.

Also, the swift backlash against expressing such ideas and the emotional reactions they elicit is at least antidotal evidence in itself. Genuine errors and completely incorrect ideas rarely have the power to even elicit words of correction. If I held a parade proclaiming 2+2=3 it would get no serious consideration, nor deserve none.

Maybe Zionists and American evangelicals should watch this too and compare it to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and the propaganda being spread across the world.

Phenomenal documentary!

People have been "warning" about (non-existent) rise of fascism for decades. It's not happening. We're closer to 2045 than 1945. Stop living in the past.

Maybe I wasn't clear but I thought my first sentence indicated that I had not. I realize people love Ken Burns but his accounts of the Civil War and Vietnam are absolute disasters; they're obviously master films created by a true craftsmen but it doesn't follow that we should treat him as Thucydides or something.

That's fair, I removed it. I would maintain that's its accurate nonetheless. If I had taken more time, I'd probably have reworded it as 'the most powerful, systematic, and enduring racist society in world history.' Sentiments don't easily translate into quantifiable research variables and it was sloppy to include them.

I have in mind overt public displays of horror inflicted on individuals in countries outside the US; these are often implicitly regarded as evidence of their power but the opposite is the case. Similar to public execution and torture in European feudalism was always a sign of a weak state. My impression is that you might already be familiar with this line of reasoning but for those who have not, such claims will appear to take off from the planet.

“The US is the most deeply racist society in world history.” There’s no good reason to interject your biased conjecture in the middle of your historical analysis. I was onboard until you decided to write that; it shows a serious lack of knowledge regarding other nations history while simultaneously making you appear entirely amerocentric.

PBS is hugely popular here. But the watchers trend older now. And if you’re talking about BBC, in general, they aren’t comparable. Totally, different thing.

> The University of California, Berkeley, was slammed Friday for creating “Jewish-free zones” after nine student groups adopted a rule forbidding pro-Israel speakers at events.

That’s not a Jewish free zone where does it say Jewish people aren’t allowed? You’re still lying

Like I said, in a previous comment, public broadcasting here isn’t really popular compared to Britain.

Unfortunately, public broadcasting in the US never really had the influence, funding, or popularity as their British counterparts did.