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butt_dance t1_j94q0jw wrote

Reply to comment by 416warlok in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

The psychology behind people going to such lengths to defend a dead celebrity they’ve never met for an issue that has exactly zero impact on their own life is very interesting. Unless it’s their own issues compelling them to do so. Which I have a feeling is often a contributing factor with stuff related to child sexual abuse. It just really opens your eyes when so many people will chose to believe and defend a dead (but still with a very powerful estate) celebrity over two men who say they were victims of this celebrity. Two men who appear to still be suffering a great deal as a result of their trauma. As a stranger to all involved in the case, what is the harm in believing them? There isn’t any. So why do so many people work so hard at not believing them? Because there is a great deal of harm in sending the message that victims of sexual abuse shouldn’t tell their story.

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DarkJester89 t1_j93dc9b wrote

Reply to comment by sumguysr in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

Yes, after decades of accusations and a lot of people didn't believe it.

His charges? forcible rape, forcible oral copulation and sexual penetration by a foreign object.

His charges and received sentence isn't bad enough to sent a message to others.

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abloobudoo009 t1_j92nmg9 wrote

Reply to comment by longhegrindilemna in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

Yeah, people in the industry have connections. When I first started going to Berklee one of the things that was hammered into us was that we NEVER talk bad about another artist. You "just don't do that." Then the deeper I got into some of the social circles, and brushed against some overlapping ones, I learned there's a multitude of reasons, and the biggest one is association because perception is reality.

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BeerPoweredNonsense t1_j92n9hd wrote

Reply to comment by Razakel in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

It's a bit more involved than that. You can't label people guilty by association, it's a fundamental principle of free countries.

However, in this particular case this admin - Aimee Channelor - used to be a minor politician in the UK, was a candidate in an election, and hired their father as campaign manager even while he was waiting to be tried for raping a 10 year old. So at the very least this Aimee Channelor made a massive error of judgement when hiring their campaign manager. For this they were booted out of the political party.

They they joined a different UK party - but got kicked out again when it came to light that their partner was publishing paedophile erotica.

Then Reddit decided that this Aimee was just the right person to be an admin.

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JamaicaNoFap t1_j92jsfz wrote

Reply to comment by lovekillseveryone in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

That’s absolutely untrue. Many people who were close with him believe he did it. His own mother knew back in the early 80s. His sister Latoya came out and accused him in the 90s and was vilified for it. The court documents listing what was found in Neverland is enough evidence to prove he had sexual interest in young people and had many many grooming materials at hand as well as stained children’s underwear and bloodstained sheets. Face facts

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ammshrimpus t1_j92gdma wrote

Reply to comment by GeoffreyArnold in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

I agree. Too many disgusting child sex offenders are being protected. They should all be prosecuted. I’m betting the reason the client list is still hidden is because there are some very influential and high powered people on it.

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GeoffreyArnold t1_j929ome wrote

Reply to comment by ammshrimpus in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

But the flight logs and the client list are different things. What they are hiding is the client list. Epstein and Maxwell were charged with essentially pimping underage girls, but who did they pimp them out to? That list of clients of powerful people is a secret to this day. We know there was one member of the British Royal Family but where are the rest of the names?

The flight logs just says who was on his jet. That doesn't mean they had sex with any of the minors. What we want to see is the client list.

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lovekillseveryone t1_j91wzdt wrote

Reply to comment by FlutterGoddess in An Open Secret (2014) - A film exposing pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. [1:38:22] by unknown_human

I defend Michael because if you put the work in and do the research. you find that none of it makes sense. Also, the people that actually knew michael, family, friends, and business associates, pretty much everyone....not one person thinks he was guilty? How does that happen ?

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