Funny how there are people dumb enough to actually believe this. Lmao

Coming up on 8 decades since Enlightenment as Mass Deception discussed it:

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm

The main (major) problem with FOX news is it isn't based on fact, it is 90%+ conservative propaganda. All of their major contributors have a truthful rating in the single digits, that's not opinion but fact!

Agreed. But would include community and culture in there too

Oligopoly. Not monopoly.

And they admitted to using that power to manipulate the most recent presidential election, we do not have a fair system

Most rich people are just lucky or smart enough to benefit from the skewed system, and not in control. The banking system and its gatekeepers, and the ultra rich, are in control.

The concept of class warfare is just a ploy to give the poor a scapegoat out of the rich, and turn them against each other as adversaries.

I'm confused.

> I always laugh at how right and left meet in the middle.

Don't the US right and "left" meet somewhere on the right?

There still is a very small true left, I guess you could be referring to us?

> All these conservative friends talking about media conspiracies, and i say it isn't a conspiracy. It has been documented and discussed for decades by none other than your friends on the left.

Does something stop being a conspiracy when it's documented and discussed?

This is dangerous to our democracy.

Well none, if you get to define what left is.

I think you’re confusing agenda items of the American left with left-wing politics. Abortion, for example, is not a left-right issue. Or more accurately, the parties in the United States are misaligned on the abortion issue. Conservatives should be opposed to government interference in medical decisions.

So really the issue is one of perspective. What you really mean is that you perceive the US to be left-leaning based on the policies you prioritize. That’s simply not the same thing as statistics. If you have any data you’d like to present, I’m glad to read it, but these are just feelings you have.

sure, foreign governments try to influence you, but their influence is a drop in the ocean compared to your own government and corporations.

The fact that you believe differently is due to propaganda from your own government and corporations.

Lmao

Problem is that once capitalists accumulate enough wealth it's just easier to buy the government.

They did exactly that, about 40 years ago.

This. I keep seeing social media posts saying things that are covered in MC and posting it like it's some secert mind blowing conspiracy. Like nah fam, this shit was sorted out some 50+ years ago

The U.S. is further left than... nearly the entirety of South American, Central America, Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and Eastern Europe.

Again, the political spectrum has more to do than one subject. For example, Venezuela is far left economically (how's that working out?) but try to have an abortion there (punished by mandatory prison sentence)... or a gay marriage (which is constitutionally banned.)

So, besides Canada, Australia, and Western Europe (I'm ignoring the state sanctioned religions and monarchies that still exist there) what country is further left than the U.S.?

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And I spent 10 minutes scouring the waybackmachine and can not find the articles anywhere on CNN.com.

Which proved my point- that the stories exist but are buried to the point they can't be found. And you further proved my point- that people will google what they want to find and then say "See! It's right there! They do report on it!"

That is the formulation they would like you to believe yes. But MSNBC is not in the far left of American politics, or at least were not whenever I’ve seen them. They have a center-right bias just like the Democrats. I’m not sure you know what the left actually wants, but it’s not the stuff advocated by msnbc.

Oh and by the way, the US is in no way left of 90% of nations, that is an absurd and completely made up statement. And nationalized healthcare should be a right-wing agenda item, as it would save untold billions of dollars and produce better outcomes.

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Now take your experimental drug. And if you question us you are a right-wing racist who is killing grandmothers.

Yes and: most corporate media is partisan agnostic. They protect the status quo and hierarchy. aka The Radical Centrists.

Fox News, aka GOP.tv, a notable exception, are unapologetically right wing populists. Meaning alliance of upper and lower classes against the middle.

I found those in 2min of googling all from just one mainstream news outlet . I can find plenty more that examine it from different angles and had more exposure but you can google things yourself and i've made my point.

The corporate owners are irrelevant. They just want profits rolling in and do not care which side sends them money.

What makes them left-leaning is their content and editorial decisions. MSNBC is clearly far to the left of center in American politics.

Oh, and BTW... the U.S. is further left than 90% of the world's nations. (There is more to the political scale than health care, getting that out of the way since that is the only comeback people have when I make that statement.)

Ok, brainwashed npc.

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> let alone talk about what the money could have gone to.

There's hardly anything better to spend money on, right now. Especially if it's from the DOD/military budget.

You're essentially beating your age-old enemy with ZERO casualties or danger to your citizens.