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whatastep OP t1_j5y12yd wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in [Text] Pep Talk! Life's a constant evolution. by whatastep

Don’t worry I don’t take your words the wrong way. I do appreciate you sharing what you know.

Also, I’m not young or inexperienced.

We’re talking about the lives of other people that may or not overcome a particular difficulty. And I do agree with you that there are situations that are beyond us and can eat us whole (a lion for example).

I’d point you to the two examples you gave (human trafficking, rape victims) fortunately I don’t know anyone who suffered from the first, but I do know someone who suffered from the latter. Don’t you know people that were able to move beyond great difficulties?

And if some people overcame such difficulties why would we say to someone else that they can’t?

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[deleted] t1_j5y25oz wrote

Don’t lean into those two aforementioned points, I’m just using them to highlight that there are situations that can start a series of events, which may lead to a downward spiral in a person’s life, leading them to an irreversible and sometimes irredeemable position. (A lion eating someone whole)? Seriously?? Just facts! Though usually appreciated, optimism isn’t always the right answer, sometimes just being realistic and approaching the situation “head on” will make people better off.

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whatastep OP t1_j5y8nzd wrote

Don’t lean into the examples you used? Why? They’re only valid when it serves your viewpoint? Will you then choose another example that isn’t a tragedy of life like a lion eating you. So we don’t get trapped in fantasy.

And then I’ll ask you: Did anyone that suffered from that difficulty ever moved passed it, or built a positive life afterward?

Do you agree with this? - Despite a tragic event in life you can aim at and do positive things, things a friend would recommend you to do. But sometimes people choose another path, a path that instead of promoting their potential diminishes it. (drugs/alcoholism/or any other harmful action).

This is what I mean, a constructive path that leads to well-being vs a path that takes you further from it.

This is the point I am trying to make. I’m not saying that a fatality can’t destroy a life.

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