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LittleLui t1_j1d7les wrote

Reply to comment by BigFoot175 in Why does Hitler hate golf? by LilGoughy

Your question is based on a wrong premise. National Socialism isn't a mixture of Nationalism and Socialism.

Speaking very broadly, Socialism has as its goal the ownership of the means of production by the workers, and focuses on class and the relations between classes as the way of looking at a society.

National Socialism doesn't share that goal and neither that perspective. It has Socialism in its name in the same way the Democratic People's Republic of Korea has Democracy in its name.

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BigFoot175 t1_j1d3ii9 wrote

I mean... You're not wrong. Upon further reading, I conclude that it definitely started out as a Socialist movement - German Workers' Party - but after everyone's least favorite Austrian got his grubby mitts on the reigns, it all went to shit.

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MansfromDaVinci t1_j1d1mda wrote

Reply to comment by BigFoot175 in Why does Hitler hate golf? by LilGoughy

The simple answer is they weren't socialists, calling yourself a socialist doesn't make you one. The complicated answer is that they co-opted some very minor aspects of socialism but they called themselves socialists as a publicity exercise to attract the working classes and because they attacked 'Jewish merchants and bankers' however real socialists were, along with trade unionists and communists the first victims of the regime.

By the way all forms of government beyond some kind of small scale tribalism or anarchy are by necessity authoritarian, there is no modern government that doesn't extract taxes and obedience by means of force, you could equally say capitalists need a structure of force to keep an unequal wealth structure propped up and to extract the resources and labour from the workers to enable the unearned passive income of the onwers/rulers.

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