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classicrock40 t1_j1wshuh wrote

Reply to Road Salt by Dr_ThunderMD

My guess is that extra was used this time because of the rain/snow/wind/icing potential and they wanted to really make sure the roads were passable. It's like that way over in Nashua and surrounding areas too. Agreed on the salt impact, but I have no idea on the effectiveness of the alternatives.

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Dr_ThunderMD OP t1_j1votpl wrote

Reply to comment by Theabird in Road Salt by Dr_ThunderMD

It's honestly awful all throughout Mass, but I'm looking to start bringing about awareness to the problem.

Our tax dollars pay for roads, which are then destroyed by our tax paid salt and road workers, then our tax dollars pay for the new roads, and on and on.

It's a viscous cycle of a money pit that burdens the tax payer, when our local government should be looking for safer alternatives.

Sure, salt is cheap as hell, but there is certainly a cost/benefit factor that is being ignored here.

My question is, what costs the tax payer more?

  • Paying to repave roads, repair our cars, and treat our land that deteriorated at an accelerated rate due to cheap road salt?
  • Using a significantly less corrosive ice melt substance (at higher cost than salt), but preserving and extending the life of our roads, cars, and environment?
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Theabird t1_j1vle0j wrote

Reply to Road Salt by Dr_ThunderMD

Damn my perception of a lot must be really off. I'd been thinking that this seems like a lot less then I saw when I lived closer to boston.

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Sbatio OP t1_j1c2c9o wrote

Art is the handmaid of human good.

It would be beautiful, it would reflect off the Merrimack, the lighting could be an event like Christmas Tree lightings are many places.

People love things like this, there are the Ice palace lights, the zoo lights, there is the 200 xmas tree display in Medford annually, the Boston common tree lighting, Rockefeller center, etc

Why not spend it on schools? Because our schools are well funded, not every dollar should be spent on utility.

This is funding the arts.

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Sbatio OP t1_j1buode wrote

That is no small amount of money for an individual but more manageable as part of the city budget.

Some could be lit by projecting light onto them, which would be cheaper. Like one could have the city seal hitting it towards the top and that’s the whole display for 1.

Do you have any research from back when you did the interview about who else owns the other stacks?

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GimmeYourFries t1_j1br2s3 wrote

I interviewed the guy who owns Wannalancit once and he told me it costs about $30,000 per season to light that, though that was about a decade ago and I think before LEDs.

I suspect it’s still cost prohibitive though. I’m not sure how much the bridges cost but maybe the city could do it now that we have LEDs. I think the bridges are supported by someone other than the city though.

I’d support expanding that effort.

Edit to add my old story on this from 2010 when it wasn't lit: $30,000 per year according to John Power, the primary owner https://www.lowellsun.com/2010/12/01/lowell-pining-for-holiday-landmark/amp/

Also an MV Mag story with the cost and no paywall: https://www.mvmag.net/2016/11/27/christmas-stack/

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