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araset OP t1_j1usfpc wrote

Reply to comment by PhreiB in Industrial Apricot, at work by araset

I mean technically you are the one writing the user manual, as with all the custom boards you can decide how you want the keys function since VIA is your friend. It's all a matter of getting used to to your own configuration. I still average 100 wpm on this board

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aimingsashimig t1_j1us0wt wrote

Reply to Alice Layout seems poorly thought out? by Jazzlike_Spite2458

I don't think having extra keys is ever a problem, at the very least. As someone who touch types incorrectly, I only use the b on the right side, so I set the left b to something else (a key I needed because it's in Japanese layouts but missing in ANSI ones). I've seen alice layouts both with and without it, so the fact that so many group buys and manufacturers include a second b tells me I'm not alone in wanting it.

If anything, I think the way to fix issues would just be adding more additional keys. Looking at some non-alice split keyboards, I see designs with 6 on the right and with 6 the left, so I'm sure there are people doing both of those as well. It seems that different countries teach different hands for typing that particular key, too. If there was a way to put a 6 on both sides, that would help more people use the keyboard.

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PhreiB t1_j1up63p wrote

Reply to comment by Peiple in Industrial Apricot, at work by araset

Came hear to say the same thing. I get a chuckle out of some of the keyboards on this subreddit but this one damn near killed me. Sure, this is compact and aesthetically pleasing but if I'm going to need a user's manual on my desk to find my space bar, it's kind of deal breaker.

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polymorphic2346 t1_j1umgi2 wrote

Reply to Alice Layout seems poorly thought out? by Jazzlike_Spite2458

Thanks for these thoughts, they'll help me buy the right keyboard. :) Though this reddit is making me wonder if I should just mod my own if I'm going to be this persnickety. 👀 I didn't even know that was a thing! Anyway I need an ergo of some sort and this helps me a bit when considering Alice.

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Mazarine_Marjolaine t1_j1ulwbx wrote

Reply to Alice Layout seems poorly thought out? by Jazzlike_Spite2458

There are variations in the Alice layout. You might have to look around for one that suits you. Some have the extra 'B' (an abomination) and some don't. There is some difference in the placement of the right space bar too (some keebs have it flush with the 'N' which is too far right for me). The '6' placement is a valid point. Even though I learned on typewriters, that doesn't bother me because I never got the hang of the number row. Don't get me started on the Alice variants that have the right shift to the right of the arrow cluster.

I've been pretty happy with keebs based on the Fate-Nozomi layout (like Nico & Steph or YMDK wings).

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