Lookin real nice~ Glad you like the cable we sent over 😁

My boy u/CableMod_Mark messaged me privately after seeing my post about my Keychron q8 :)

Noicee

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I'll reply to each of your points individually:

> 8-9 community sets seems to be their current max capacity going forward.

It's not as simple as "insert amount of sets" per month. The sets GMK are going through right now are very large in the number of kits. As we get down to the smaller sets in the queue (there are a ton of sets in the queue right now that don't even have 1000 base kit orders), they will be able to go through many more sets than a month with larger sets (ie Metropolis, Striker R2)

> Even if they can keep the estimate of Q4 2023 for all in queue sets, any current IC will still be several months away from GB date.

A set doesn't "have" to take months to go into GB. It's completely reliant on if the designer has vendors lined up already and has worked with those vendors to get quotes beforehand.

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> Then we have to hope for a good result in color matching as cannonkeys has already confirmed it take upwards of 6 months to get a sample back, or possibly years in the worst case scenario where multiple rounds are needed.
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> Andy himself has said they do no consider a set as ordered till is passes all these other checks of MOQ/Payment/Matching/etc. so any number they give is from order date confirmation, which seems to be 10 months at best.

GMK Mizu completed GB in June of 2019, Went through 3 rounds of color matching, and the first person to receive theirs from a vendor on the geekhack page was in December of 2019. I don't want to put blame on anybody, but 6 months for one sample round is most certainly an anomaly, considering that a lot of vendor's update pages like Omnitype's show samples being made in less than 2 months. All of this to say: As we get through all of the sets in the queue, lead times on everything from samples, sorting, and shipment will shorten since they have a lot less on their plate to keep up with as visible from GMK Mizu's GB and many other GMK GBs from that time before there were dozens of sets in the production queue.

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> Even when a set is "completed" it takes 3-6 months for some US/CA vendors to land their shipment. There are multiple "completed" sets that you can DHL over in 3 days from the german vendor or wait half a year for the US one to deal with logistics. It was worse in the past yearw and is improving but this just shows how much the current world events effect this stuff.
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> China just opened the flood gates to covid, who knows if ANY part of their supply chain would be affected by it, most likely yes seeing as how globalized everything is now.

COVID has been the only major world event that has caused a slow-up in GMK's manufacturing, so I do not see how else it would get worse over time. Also AFAIK, none of GMK's manufacturing relies on China.

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> Anyone giving a one year timeline on GMK is optimistic at best and ignorant at worst, there are just too many factors to predict. Even hitting a single snag in the chain will drive delivery a quarter to half a year out.

So you are so well versed in GMK's manufacturing line that you know exactly how long a "snag" takes to sort out? And what do these snags look like?

What layout is this?

An Alice layout with function row!! What is this!

Appreciate the mini-review! How's the gasket implementation? Does it have a soft enough typing feel? Don't anything super flexy, but softer than top mount would be nice.

Price of silicone must have gone up. Makes sense, the insert weighs 300 lbs

Wow Keychron for only 10 million?? No way it must be a glitch it is like 300 million usually.

From what i've seen switching from EN to FR, the coma or dot on the price table messed things up quite allot ^^

Fr

A reproduction? Whats the case here?, neither a collector item nor a useful keyboard on modern macs.

OMG YES (you guys should do a zhuyin alphas option too)

I just found an original M0110 from my childhood at my parents house over Christmas. Lots of memories and a sweet board, too.

I used to use a trackball mouse at work. I was not a fan, but some of my coworkers loved it.

Unfortunately, the norm is go to GB stage with renders and pantone/ral chips and do the matching after funds are secured. It can go well or really poorly, I encourage anyone to look into hanami dango if you want an example of this.

Thanks! Yeah I’ve already noticed that… spent too much on keyboards already lol

Have the Q8 and it's a "thop" sound and the keystrokes are very smooth. Board weights ~1ton so it's not going anywhere. Seriously, the board is bloody heavy which I was not expecting after the K6 being fairly light.

That color of lamp hurts my brain.

I think it's I

Note that the ball in the pic is the yellow version. They offer a gold as well, but this one has a mustard color that matches really well with the keycaps.

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If you look at the trailing monthly average for the past year+ and remove outliers, you're still looking at 5-8 sets a month, seeing as they have had almost a year to train people on the new machines, 8-9 community sets seems to be their current max capacity going forward. This does not necessarily take into account non community orders that need to be run but not on the sheet, though Drop seems to be moving away from any new GMK orders now since they have DCX.

Even if they can keep the estimate of Q4 2023 for all in queue sets, any current IC will still be several months away from GB date. Then we have to hope for a good result in color matching as cannonkeys has already confirmed it take upwards of 6 months to get a sample back, or possibly years in the worst case scenario where multiple rounds are needed. (One of the worst cases, Red Dragon just finished their color matching and order confirmation a few months ago and the GB ended in Nov 2020.)

Andy himself has said they do no consider a set as ordered till is passes all these other checks of MOQ/Payment/Matching/etc. so any number they give is from order date confirmation, which seems to be 10 months at best.

Even when a set is "completed" it takes 3-6 months for some US/CA vendors to land their shipment. There are multiple "completed" sets that you can DHL over in 3 days from the German vendor or wait half a year for the US one to deal with logistics. It was worse in the past years and is improving but this just shows how much the current world events effect this stuff.

China just opened the flood gates to covid, who knows if ANY part of their supply chain would be affected by it, most likely yes seeing as how globalized everything is now.

Anyone giving a one year timeline on GMK is optimistic at best and ignorant at worst, there are just too many factors to predict. Even hitting a single snag in the chain will drive delivery a quarter to half a year out.

TL:DR it's not entirely GMKs fault as there are various steps before GMK even gets the green light but

Edit: also I'm not sure "SIGNIFICANTLY improved" (from when they got their machines 10 months ago) to now is 6 sets in Feb 2021 to 7 sets in Dec 2022 is the right choice of word here. The average is better now, they get a star for that but I personally believe I won't see any current IC/GB GMK set at a (US/CA) doorstep for 2 years at the very least. It might not be entirely GMKs fault because of the number of parties involved and it's also an issue with KAT/SP sets. As much as a love ABS, I've recently been buying more PBT in-stock sets from the likes of novelkeys /drop dcx because well, they are actually fronting the money and having sets out in the timeframe of months.

Got it from Amazon: Perixx PERIPRO-303 1.34 Inches Trackball - Replacement Ball for M570, PERIMICE-517/520/717/720, and Other Compatible Trackball Mouse (Yellow) (18040) https://a.co/d/fkJTmxn

I also have a red and purple colors to swap out depending on which keyboard I’m using that day