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that is satisfying on a profound level

While my initial comment had a jest at GMK, I never blamed the entirety of "time to delivery" on GMK. Every part of the chain is a factor and many part of it out of control of GMK.

Sure, maybe a few sets like GMK Minimal got left out in the rain and got ruined. Now tell me how that's GMK's fault and not the shipping courier's.

> You can't say this and then further down in your comment say that shipping or designer's personal situations will somehow, someway go wrong.

Except this is exactly what happend with a few sets.

Interested in the Cream+ switches! Are there any content creators that these switches have been sent out to, to test? Curious as to how these sound on a board with the different inserts

Neat! I’ll have to look at a nice cable for my nuphy that’s in the mail. Never crossed my mind that cablemod had some, really liked my rtx 3000 series psu cable from them, top notch!

> This is something Andy has already detailed on. Moving to smaller sets does not mean faster production.

Maybe so, but when we are talking about sets with thousands of kits being made compared to hundreds there will of course be some sort of difference. This is why GMK Dots took so long, while other sets were seemingly shooting out of the pipeline. The time to sort these sets and package them is also a concern, which adds time to a larger set comparatively.

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> Like I said, upwards. While I don't know this specific designers' history with working with vendors/GMK, I was referencing community sets in general. Depending on the designer this stage could potentially take a very long time.

If designers properly match their renders to their chosen color reference, there is zero excuse why the colors should take more than one round of color matching unless the color is very bright, pale, or a shade of grey, black, or white. GMK uses proper equipment to color match according to the reference you are sending, so most color-matching rounds that are rejected are the designer's fault. GMK Dracula's colors were referenced using digital hex codes, which explains why it took an absurd amount of time to get it right.

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> You're right but we can only base estimates off information we have

You can't say this and then further down in your comment say that shipping or designer's personal situations will somehow, someway go wrong.

Should I post my q2? Lol I could use an upgrade

Still a brilliant Keyboard for the age, love typing on it! May want to replace it with something modern with lights as the kids have these days.

That is tough, I love that.

Looks like Domikey Hush

Didn’t know they made that! I have the Q8 and I love it but I do miss the f-row keys

Nahhhh don’t return the gmmks and keychron

Id like to salute your RKs

Peeps getting cables for their new keyboards, and I’m looking while typing on my old Dell Bigfoot with PS/2 connector. ☹️

> It's not as simple as "insert amount of sets" per month.

You're right but we can only base estimates off information we have and historically this is what they have been averaging. I'm not going to delve into MOQ comparisons for 150+ sets and figure out which ones will be completed faster, nor do I have information about production numbers for anything not on that sheet. Another factor to consider is that when moving to smaller MOQ sets, this requires more downtime to rotate molds, plastics, clean machines, dial in settings, etc. and leads to lower output. This is something Andy has already detailed on. Moving to smaller sets does not mean faster production.

>I don't want to put blame on anybody, but 6 months for one sample round is most certainly an anomaly

Like I said, upwards. While I don't know this specific designers' history with working with vendors/GMK, I was referencing community sets in general. Depending on the designer this stage could potentially take a very long time. The case with Rensuya is definitely an outlier, they seem to have a very specific vision for the sets and will take as many color matching samples as it takes to reach it.

>Also AFAIK, none of GMK's manufacturing relies on China.

I don't know where GMK sources their raw material from, the majority of the worlds ABS resin is produced in Asia (S. Korea/Taiwan are big ones). If they do use any of these supply chains, there could be slow downs. They have said they secured a large raw materials allocation that is good for several sets but warehouse space costs money and I highly doubt they hold years worth of orders in raw material. If there's anything we learned from covid, everything relies on everything, direct or not china is likely involved.

>So you are so well versed in GMK's manufacturing line that you know exactly how long a "snag" takes to sort out? And what do these snags look like?

I never claimed to know anything about GMK manu other than publicly stated information. I also said "chain" which means everything from designers having personal problems or running out of material to shipping times increasing again if half of china decides to catch covid and halt all it's ports.

Sick board!!!👍

Keychron q10

Awesome! Mark gave me a free cable too, for my Keychron Q10!

It's like all other q series so it is quite soft. There is significant flex. Much softer than top mount.

Are the cream+ switches similar to the old cream switches where we need to lube and break in?

dont forget the 30 million shipping fee!

But mommm why shouldn't my 5th desk not have a keyboard to accompany it? That would hurt it's feelings

Also not bashing I have the same deal going on

Your wrists certainly are at funky angles when you type with a normal board. You're just used to it.

Thank you so much! I just have to get better at taking photos