Recent comments in /f/MechanicalKeyboards

Hellenic94 t1_iwcb9kc wrote

You dont need professional examination or 3 decades of electronics repairs to see if one board has more esd/static shock issues than another. Like I said, owners of space65 are more vocal about these problems than any other channel iv been in and its not by chance.

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LASERman71 t1_iwca6xx wrote

They are - do some search .

Never said this is normal. Those incidents are surely not normal occurrence, but Jumping to conclusion without professional investigation just proves your ignorance. No pro will make such conclusion just because "numerous people" managed to damage their boards.

And this has nothing to do with the maker - the typical childish mantra of accusing me to somehow covering for the company just disqualifies you from further conversation.

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aneasyusername t1_iwc9ecf wrote

It’s not necessarily recommended, but it’s not a bad idea. Like anything else, over time it could start developing issues that aren’t easily remedied so having a spare PCB would be nice in those situations. Especially if it’s a keyboard that doesn’t use readily available PCBs.

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LASERman71 t1_iwc8zpr wrote

>ESD works until it doesnt

This applies to... every single electronic device on the planet :)

And I read about ESD damage on pretty much all Discord keeb channels...

I would rather blame "keeb build stream gurus" for showing you to handle PCBs w/o any ESD precautions.... consequences do not have to show up immediately. 3 decades of electronics repairs would teach you that.

Of course I will not dismiss the possibility that this line of boards may be more venerable, but this requires professional examination not just your impressions.

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MetalHivemind t1_iwc79ya wrote

Afaik, it was designed with it. There's MANY others that apparently don't have this issue, like myself. I have 2 PCBs from them. It's cold af where I am right now. Dry air, carpeted room. ESD heaven. No issues so far. I'm not saying ESD didn't kill theirs, but there's no widespread issue. Defective parts happen.

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LASERman71 t1_iwc730v wrote

Sorry dude, I have no time to teach you basics of electronics but:

Correctly designed keyboard (and frankly any other device in metal case) will have it's PCB ground line firmly connected to the case for multiple reasons (ESD included).

Of course some customs have a flaw when other contacts of the PCB may touch the case and this needs to be prevented but not because of ESD risk but simply just to avoid shorting circuits.

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Hellenic94 t1_iwc6pfq wrote

Ofcourse I can, iv seen MANY space65 boards have static shock and esd issues including my own. ESD works until it doesnt and in OPs case ESD failed to prevent damage. Go on their discord server and simply search static shock theres someone asking for help bi-weekly. I havent faced any issues with Geon, Gok, Bitmap, Aeboards, Jackystudios, Owlabs, Smith n Rune pcbs and im active in those servers. Does static shock affect anything electronic on this earth? Absolutely.

Esd is a weak point for space65.

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LASERman71 t1_iwc5m6v wrote

Because you have ONE similar aspect with yours you think you can decide this is exactly the same scenario? Wrong!

You can find (in this subreddit) multiple examples of various incidents with totally different board / maker and the same "disconnect/reconnect noise".

It does NOT make it "exact same issue".

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LASERman71 t1_iwc4ztw wrote

Again you are talking rubbish.

You have no authority to judge this wasn't caused by anything else but "touching the key caps", because you weren't there, you have no info how OP build this board, how his setup is grounded etc etc... I have no time to talk about many other factors involved.

Any consumer electronic device is susceptible to ESD damage in some circumstances regardless of best efforts from the maker.

Your expectation based on "expensive custom" is just hilarious since high price has nothing to do with any extra ESD prevention.

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