Recent comments in /f/MechanicalKeyboards

QWERKey-UK t1_ixyxr0b wrote

>Just stop joining group buys and the problem will solve itself over time.

Then those of us who accept and understand the situation will just carry on running and using them without having to put up with people moaning endlessly about them.

GBs are what made this hobby what it is. Without them, it will just become like the gaming industry. Lots of identical, low risk products that all look the same. The fact that the GB model allows risk taking is what generates the variety and uniqueness of product that drew you here in the first instance, and now you want to kill it because you can't buy stuff with next day delivery?

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QWERKey-UK t1_ixyxc86 wrote

>It's infuriating to see a cool keycap set online that I really want only to find out it was from a group buy 4 years ago

Then perhaps write to the designer and ask if they would consider doing another run. GMK can't sell you more. They don't have the right to do so. They belong to the designer, not GMK. GMK do not design keycaps.

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RiderInNature OP t1_ixyx2vq wrote

I have a separate keyboard for work, I wfh so I want to detach a bit from work thus the different keyboard but, I am loving the mechanical keyboard so I am thinking, maybe I will get one for work with silent switches in case I need to go to the office so, I will look into gateron silent. Compared to a membrane keyboard, how loud are they?

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QWERKey-UK t1_ixywzvo wrote

> stop doing group buys and force companies to take on the risk to create an actual in stock product

Large companies don't take risks on something that historically sells so few units. GMK just make what you tell them to. They don't design anything. The people who design them are just community members like you and I. We don't have 5 figure sums of cash just lying around. Even a successful group buy for keycaps sells just a couple of thousand examples, including extras. The risk is very high, and the cost are significant.

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QWERKey-UK t1_ixyw456 wrote

>How is this illogical?

Because you clearly have no idea about the costs of developing and manufacturing a keycap set. The people who design all these cool sets are just community members like you and I. They are not large companies. If you wanted to design a keycap set, where would you get the money from? What you don't seem to realise is that even successful group buys for keycaps only sell a couple of thousand (including extras) so the costs are high, and the risk is high. Large companies have no interest in making keycap sets that sell in such small numbers because they would also need to sell them at similar prices. This is why most cheap Chinese keycaps are clones, because the risk is lower. If you KNOW a set is really well liked, you can just make clones to sell at half the price and be fairly certain that they will sell. If you didn't know this beforehand though, it would be a very risky venture to tool up and make caps in these kinds of quantities.

Like most people who say the stuff you are saying, if I asked you to present an alternative model, you'd just say something along the lines of "just make them, and then sell them".... in fact, you pretty much have said that already. This shows that you simply do not have the experience to comment on this. Sorry.

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