Yeah, and contrary to popular belief, learning how to make 3d renders and all that just to prove a point to a random person on the internet isn’t the best use of one’s time. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Thank you :D I think people chuckle and scrolly by when it's not "their" switch ;)

while i obviously don't speak for everyone, and dicks will almost certainly still show up and attack you no matter what...

i think it's a point of how did you ask it? Did you say "n00b here what switches do I choose???" or "hey, i have tried a couple of boards and find myself leaning towards the feel of linear switches. the ones i tried seemed light/heavy and instead i want something heavy/light. any suggestions?"

people taking time to help and be empathetic are 1000% going to interact with the comment looking like another budding hobbyist over the millionth useless "wut switchs does i git?" comment.

u/hiszpanskiinkwizytor you should take what Cobertt is saying to heart here.

It is absolutely unrealistic to ask a runner to have the capital to fund an entire manufacturing operation by themselves. If that were the case, then this hobby wouldn’t exist to begin with. Designers that are doing their best to keep everyone appraised of the group buy’s timeline aren’t your enemy here.

We should continue to hold companies like GMK, Keyreative, etc. accountable for poor communication and missing deadlines. But acting as though that is the fault of a good-faith runner is misplacing your frustration.

Best thing you can do is not join GB’s that use manufacturers/vendors with a problematic track record, and support those that respect their customers.

Congrats on the 10,000th post about this and adding nothing new to the conversation!

dont worry

it happens to all of us

I thought it was that but not quite sure. I saw someone saying they lubed stabs with 105 and dielectric for the stems. Isn’t 105 too liquid for using on stabs?

Ahhh awesome thank! I’ve not had a chance to check out the Ramaworks duck switches. I’ll have a look. Are the espresso caps still available or back on a group buy do you know?

I do remember when keyboards came as is. I used IBM Model M keyboards when they were new and used and purchased more than a few keyboards over the years :)

I guess this might be a better analogy for the point I was trying to make... The fashion industry.

Not sure if you are aware but fashion designs are unable to get IP protection. They tried back in the day but judges etc stamped on the idea saying a cuff or collar is a cuff or collar so because you shape it this way it is still that item. It is why brands have designs where the pattern includes their logo etc. They have protections on the logo so can go to court over the use.

What happens because this lack of protection is that as new "trends" come down the catwalk there are teams of people ready to start the "clone" process to then pump it onto the highstreet in days.

Not sure how well the protection works on keycaps but could very well see that if I say copied the colourway of a set, tweaked the colours ever so slightly so it preserved the "intent" there would be little recourse in law.

As you put above, there are target audiences at different price points. A GMK customer is less likely to buy clones and also a clone buyer is less likely to buy GMK because of the prices.

In the end of the day I think we are almost on the same page but arguing at different angles. A designer should get paid for their work but I can see how the situation happens if you put out a design that is in demand and then make it a year plus before actually available, the clone makers will flood in to fill the void.

Keycaps as you pointed out are just fashion really. We get sets we like the colours of.

I do understand lead times but if GMK are really running that far behind in the order books that would be an indication that they should expand no?

did i miss the part of this meme where OP said this is deathly serious, he is the only arbiter of correctness, and anyone who disagrees should be executed? responses are wild lmao. like c'mon just chuckle and scroll by...

The switches or their owners? ;)

> Right now people are helping a lot because there was a post talking about how it was useless and was pointing out the elitism in this sub.

Do you seriously believe this?

Are you vaguely aware of how exhausting it is to go to the thread, every day, trying to help people who often ask bad questions, questions that can be found in google/sub search, or questions that have nothing to do with the sub, still trying to help them, and often getting rude answers or not even a thank you?

(In a good way)

The keycaps look so soft

I don't think we understand each other.

it's really disheartening to see. GB as a concept works really well for both the producer and the buyer. Shared risk means more innovative and unique products will be able to see production. I just HATE the hosts with "It's GB. You knew what you were getting into, bro." Someone should do a quantitative study on the rate of success and failures on GBs.

Mate, your N2 key is drunk on the white one. Or just sleeping, maybe, ahah.

In what world? Switches get samples, the molds don’t change for gmk (I’d like to see pre group buy color matching), and the vast majority of boards probably like 95% get prototypes. So that’s not how group buys work.

confirmed, I got them :)

But that's what most group buys look like :DEven with big manufacturers like Zeal. They start GB without even having an idea how to make on or don't even have samples from manufacturers.

That's how I encourage scammers? WTF man, I literally am praying for the opposite...

Also chiming in to say, autoshift for numbers/symbols is very powerful on 40's and below, it has let me condense my layers on my QAZ while still remaining just as comfortable as before when I had two different layers for numbers/symbols and shifted symbols

I'm taking about a person who had an idea, started the whole thing and is responsible for the undertaking. In a normal business if you are selling something, you are responsible for problems of your coworkers and manufacturers, not clients.

A laser cnc is not the same as a mill. A mill is required for making a keyboard case. A laser can cut plates and stuff, thin sheets.

How am is someone supposed to afford 25k for a mill pre group buy. I sure as hell am not spending 1k ona keyboard where the group buy runner says hey! I have idea for a keyboard here’s the render. I don’t know how to cnc but I’m going to buy a mill and annodization vats and learn how to do it. Oh and the board costs more than a keycult.

That’s how you encourage scammers.

Reminds me of Werthers originals and espresso candy

I got it :) i forgot but yes i have a delivery confirmation. I just shoved the stabs away in a box while i was waiting for dreamscape and the Aozora base :)