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MurkDiesel t1_j69x2cz wrote

Reply to How come rappers can get away with saying the most outrageous shit about women, but the second some indie acoustic pop whatever artist says something like “don’t be a slut” it’s considered the fall of western Fucking civilization? by [deleted]

it's very important to remember that as a successful rapper, you will, in fact, encounter all kinds of women displaying behaviors that are oppositional to traditional views of women or what would usually be defined as "a lady"

i've seen it

two things can be true

women can be smart, demure, composed, elegant and many other adjectives

and they can also not

just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

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Gathose1 t1_j69vuf6 wrote

Reply to comment by Exiled_From_Twitter in How come rappers can get away with saying the most outrageous shit about women, but the second some indie acoustic pop whatever artist says something like “don’t be a slut” it’s considered the fall of western Fucking civilization? by [deleted]

I never said it never happens, I said it rings true for me and that I only ever hear criticisms for non rap artists.

Unless your talking about the religious right, but nobody cares when they criticize it

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J0hnEddy t1_j69v21z wrote

Reply to How come rappers can get away with saying the most outrageous shit about women, but the second some indie acoustic pop whatever artist says something like “don’t be a slut” it’s considered the fall of western Fucking civilization? by [deleted]

To put it simply, that kind of rap music attracts an audience that doesn’t care in the first place. It’s a genre that’s rooted in being braggadocious and getting a reaction out of people. Not saying it’s wrong or right, but that’s just who consumes hip hop. There’s no precedent for, let’s say, car seat headrest to call women bitches or anything like that, it’s not the image that got them popular in the first place.

Also, like others have said, rap has been under fire for literally 30 years from feminist groups. Tipper Gore and the PMRC literally tried to get 2 Live Crew banned from American retailers over misogynistic lyrics. I can remember being in middle school and having several moms demand Eminem was banned from the school because of songs like “kill you” Those guys have had to answer for their art since the beginning

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E_Snap t1_j69udyd wrote

Reply to comment by Exiled_From_Twitter in How come rappers can get away with saying the most outrageous shit about women, but the second some indie acoustic pop whatever artist says something like “don’t be a slut” it’s considered the fall of western Fucking civilization? by [deleted]

And their ongoing fame and fortune is more or less entirely unaffected by the fallout said lyrics may create. It’s such a part of their brand that the controversy drives music sales for them.

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coolgall22 OP t1_j69tn8c wrote

Reply to comment by coolgall22 in Is post malone dead? by coolgall22

with post, he had potential. they wanted him to join them, graduate from being a puppet to becoming a master. But his addition was getting out of hand(“return of Mac”), and then he fell in love & tried to run away. So they decided to eliminate him, and replace him w something they can control. now this is just a wild theory i got from just listening to his albums. but i know im not completely off from the truth

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thisismyname03 t1_j69teum wrote

Reply to How come rappers can get away with saying the most outrageous shit about women, but the second some indie acoustic pop whatever artist says something like “don’t be a slut” it’s considered the fall of western Fucking civilization? by [deleted]

As a deep lover of hip hop, especially 90’s New York style, it’s also incredibly interesting with how many people can write oppressive lyrics about any subject really, while also claiming to be the oppressed.

The culture is wild. Not all of it is this way, but it’s just so ironic to see a collective group of individuals from very specific walks of life sing battle cries about racism and oppression and then DIRECTLY write about those topics directed at other groups of minorities and women.

Again, not all of hip hop is like this, but the main culture around it surely is.

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SwoopzB t1_j69t92r wrote

Reply to How come rappers can get away with saying the most outrageous shit about women, but the second some indie acoustic pop whatever artist says something like “don’t be a slut” it’s considered the fall of western Fucking civilization? by [deleted]

Because for fans of the genre of rap you are describing, the misogyny is part of the appeal, part of the brand. Along with guns, drugs, etc. It stems from 90s gangster rap, which in its purest form described the life experiences of individuals who grew up in crime riddled, impoverished inner city areas where these themes were prevalent in every day life. In the late 90s/ early 00s the music began to glamorize the lifestyle and this is the stuff todays rappers grew up listening to.

That is all to say, the people who this music speaks to most are not the type to call for the “cancellation” over socially inappropriate lyrical content.

On the other hand, fans of John Meyer tend to shade a little more on the suburban side of society. This demographic is more likely to be socially liberal or at least present as such and therefore the artists they listen to will face more scrutiny.

You don’t have to look far to find people calling out rap for its lyrics. That’s been happening since rap existed. Those people don’t listen to rap, though.

TLDR: “career ending” cancellations only happen when the people doing the boycotting are the same people spending money on the music.

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GodsBane666 t1_j69t377 wrote

Reply to How come rappers can get away with saying the most outrageous shit about women, but the second some indie acoustic pop whatever artist says something like “don’t be a slut” it’s considered the fall of western Fucking civilization? by [deleted]

Ok, nevermind. I was just curious over something that I’ve perceived over the years. I didn’t make the post to debate people who are either pretending to not know what I’m talking about or are just willfully ignorant. I’m out because it’s just exhausting.

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