some Bjork songs are scary as fuck. They give my heeby-jeebies the heeby-jeebies.

Tool - “Prison Sex”

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There’s a big difference between a singer who doesn’t have a classically good voice, and a bad singer. Even singers who could never do opera can be amazing vocalists. Kurt cobain was mentioned by another commenter, and … man, listen to the mtv unplugged recordings of him. He put so much energy and feeling into that I still get goosebumps just thinking about it. Others suggested taking voice lessons, and it’s a good idea IMO. Just don’t try too hard to sound like someone else. Learn good technique, how to protect your voice, and then focus on how to put the feeling into it.

Most of the time larger venues like this will have a separate roped off area with chairs for an ADA section of sorts. Sometimes it’s nothing, but I’ve only noticed that at smaller venues. Another show I went to, you just had to go to the box office and request a wrist band, but those tickets weren’t through Ticketmaster. Was playing it on the safe side for this one since I haven’t been to this venue in a while

A noise gate might help

Yeah omni is not for vocals

Bleed by Meshuggah...because no band should be able to pull that off live, and yet they do.

Take lessons. There are so many ways it can improve your natural abilities. I always could basically sing fine, never any bad feedback, but taking lessons opened up a whole array of different techniques and abilities. Also eventually taught me to increase my effective range.

Ok so the software Ticketmaster uses called Archtics (and yes I know they wrote it themselves I’m not making excuses for them just explaining where in TM the disfunction really is) doesn’t actually sell GA tickets. There is no way to represent the concept of a section with 2000 fungible seats. They must each have a unique section and row. Selling non-contiguous seats is problematic so it can be a pain if not impossible to sell 2 tickets to a GA section with 10 tickets left if they’re all in different rows. Sometimes the box office can help by moving other people around or just processing multiple transactions, but it seems like TM’s BPO employees can’t, don’t know how, or are just unwilling to put in the effort to do that.

"Omnidirectional" means it was designed to pick up audio from all sides. You need a directional mic: Cardioid at a minimum, although Super cardioid or Hyper cardioid would be better.

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Kurt Cobain was an incredible vocalist. He's rough and emotive, but his ability to craft harmonies and melodies between his instrument and voice is damn near untouchable.

But to the question, Billy Corgan, Tim Armstrong, Shane McGowan, Joe Strummer, and (earlier) Nick Cave are all examples of singers that are not technically good singers, but are unique and undeniable vocalists. They do all have the benefit of being tremendously gifted songwriters, performers, and giant personalities. Those things go a long way in making up for any shortcomings in technical ability.

Quick edit to say, definitely go for some vocal lessons, get some practice under your belt, build up some confidence, and lean into whatever emotional conviction you have in your performance. If the audience can feel you, they'll forgive a load of less-than-stellar technicality.

Buy your own vocal effects pedal. A bit of reverb can go a long way to help you hit the notes. Also I use the Boss ve-500 which has a guitar input (I assume would work for bass) and it actually pitch shifts your voice live to match the note you’re playing on guitar.

Morrissey and Damon Albarn are both technically bad singers, certainly in early careers. They had character that made the songs though, and improved technically over time.

With respect, “totally wrong” in matters of artistic taste is totally wrong… :-)

For example, I think Overpowered by Funk is amazing. ”Don’t you love our Western ways?”

Three Evils-Coheed and Cambria. Great song, but that ending…

>Should I get lessons

Yes. Especially if you intend to tour, lessons will teach you how to preserve your voice, whatever your singing proficiency is right now.

So just because it’s press hyperbole we have to accept it? Exhibit A: Clapton, god?

1...2... Freddy's coming for you. 3...4.. better lock your door.. ...atleast it scared me when I was like 4yo when it came out. ...geez I'm feeling old now

Jim Morrison, Ozzy Osborne, Jimi Hendrix, David Byrne all weren’t “good” singers but that didn’t stop them. These guys and like the examples you gave (Cobain) are all good because they have something you can’t teach, charismatic vocals.

If the people in your band are happy with your voice, thats all that matters. It will get better with practice, but there are a ton of youtube vids that will teach you some basics. Warming up is very important, and you shouldnt feel pain after extended singing. History is full of singers without stellar voices, make it work for you. The naysayers can fuck off...how many of them sing in bands?

There's a good book, The Clash, All The Albums All The Songs.

The first time I heard "I am the Walrus" by the Beatles it scared me. I slept with the radio on and in a half asleep stupor I hear someone talking about being the eggman and the walrus. I had just really started listening to music and hadn't discovered the Beatles yet.

Tons of shitty singers out there with hits.