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zimmerdaon t1_j9gd0v6 wrote

Reply to comment by Lol32112300 in Hip-Hop is def the most versatile genre in the world by Lol32112300

Well now you're just bein goofy. I didn't say the most popular rap songs don't have hooks, did I? I said sometimes rap doesn't even add hooks to diversify its structure. Then I showed you three examples from three of the most popular rap artists of all time, because you wanted to bring in popularity like that's a relevant factor. Plus who tf cares if it's from 15 years ago? In your OP you literally listed Nas as an example. He started over 20 years ago. Rap ain't that versatile, it ain't that complicated.

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crrtis t1_j9gc982 wrote

Reply to Hip-Hop is def the most versatile genre in the world by Lol32112300

That’s not that true though. Look at the punk scene: hardcore, hardcore punk, street, crust, d beat, power violence, emo, screamo, pop-punk, it’s the same thing. A lot of these genres have huge sub genres attached, it’s really every scene.

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DevinBelow t1_j9gc163 wrote

Reply to Hip-Hop is def the most versatile genre in the world by Lol32112300

I would definitely know Playboi and Nas are the same genre.

Now listen to something like Coltrane's Giant Steps next to Armstrong's version of Hello Dolly next to Birdland by Weather Report. A genre like Jazz just has so many more directions it can go off on than Hip-hop or virtually any other genre, because of how it plays with modes, and rhythms, and chord progressions. It really makes Hip Hop seems very homogenous in comparison.

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Ok_Ad8249 t1_j9g9okx wrote

Reply to comment by whatistheformat in Why has the Deep Purple legacy not aged as well as other 70's rock giants? by gabapenteado

This was my thought. They were 3 different bands across 4 line ups.

In Jr. High and high school I would hear Machine Head and other hits from the Gillan era. I'd hear Hush and Kentucky Woman but somehow never heard it was the same band that did Smoke On The Water.

They reunited when I was a senior and that's when I found out about the other line ups. I liked the other line ups, but never listened to them as much as the Mark II line up. Building a legacy with line up changes can be tough enough, but building it with conflicting sounds is even harder.

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zimmerdaon t1_j9g9o6m wrote

Reply to Hip-Hop is def the most versatile genre in the world by Lol32112300

Gotta firmly disagree here. I love hip hop, but structurally & instrumentally hip hop is easily one of the LEAST versatile genres in the world. If you wanna talk about "umbrella" genres, rock has had more diversification of its forms in the past 30-40 years by a landslide. i.e. prog rock, fusion, hardcore, thrash, grind, and so on. Jazz is arguably even more diverse. Flamenco too.

Hip hop traditionally follows a pop song structure (always in 4/4 time, always 8-16 bar verses sometimes without even a hook to mix things up. You may think it SOUNDS versatile because it can use samples from virtually anything, but they're all being used in the same way. The rhythms of the songs barely change in the grand scheme of music's potential.

Historically, the lack of versatility has been one of the biggest criticisms of rap from traditionalists & theorists.

Hip-hop is still for the children, don't get me wrong.

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