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huge_mclarge t1_ja2p4sr wrote

rock: queens of the stone age, mastodon, mudvayne, gojira

indie: spoon, the shins, the kills, arcade fire

old school alternative: pixies, the cure, siouxsie & the banshees, the smiths

rap/hip hop: tribe called quest, de la soul, prof, kendrick lamar

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Sniperizer OP t1_ja2k1pz wrote

Reply to comment by jayboyguy in What genre is Steely Dan? by Sniperizer

Wow, first thanks for the informative reply. Second, thanks for implying about American musical history. I think its market or trending music forces tend to influence bands or musicians trying to stay relevant to please business execs. That I do understand. So me growing up in 70;,80,90 decades kinda have a messy streaming playlist.

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jayboyguy t1_ja2jibt wrote

Your question perfectly illustrates why genres are useful as a means of discussion of sounds and styles, but useless for actual categorization of artists, bands, albums, songs, etc.

Historically in America, the people responsible for innovating music did so because they didn’t give a crap about fitting within a particular sound. They made the sounds they heard, that grew out of what they knew, and made newer things from them. From Duke and Charlie Parker to D’Angelo and Erykah Badu, people who push music deliberately eschew the constraints of traditional labels. And perhaps Steely Dan isn’t so influential as the people I’ve named, but they pushed the capabilities of their sound for sure.

Ultimately, trying to pigeonhole artists into singular genres is often not only impossible, but harmful. I’ve talked to many a friend who had difficulty properly getting their music out there because they didn’t write it with a specific genre in mind, yet streaming services tried to get them to define their sound under a singular banner.

Which, if you didn’t know, is how many genre distinctions came about in the first place. For the most part, it was not musicians who first labeled genres; it was execs and managers who wanted to slap labels on things to make it more easily marketable.

All that said, you’ve actually answered your own question here. You’ve defined the elements you hear in their stuff, and that’s as far as it’s gotta go.

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JunFerra OP t1_ja2jd4e wrote

I think you hit the nail here: a lot of people here in this thread think that I don't like the """"uncomfortable"""" song topics, the melodrama or the character, and I don't think that's the case. The problem is the connection. She's a great artist, but I can't connect to her.

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