Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania

QuickNature t1_j77214j wrote

I'm with you on this one, and people here are deflecting from this point by talking about the Republican party in general and other mostly unrelated stuff.

If you go against the hive mind at all here, you are bombarded with downvotes and everyone gangs up against you unfortunately. Really encourages healthy debate and definitely doesn't create an echo chamber at all.

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QuickNature t1_j771lcm wrote

You must know them very well. Or are making assumptions based on some comments here and will defend them with "well because of this, they must be like that".

This is r/Pennsylvania though, so I'll probably be downvoted, but this is a tragic situation. And the comments here show why these people will never reach out for help and ultimately never change their beliefs.

It also seems that people here have forgotten that they had family and friends who will be effected by this.

Edit: Would just like to point out I accurately called out the downvotes lol. You people are so very predictable.

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artificialavocado t1_j76zcdz wrote

I really don’t want to argue. Sure, life experience and mental illness could have certainly played a part. The article says people who knew them said the dad had almost a cult like reverence for Donald Trump and thought the world was going to end because he lost. I’ll go ahead and blame conservative media and ideology too. If you think democrats are lizard people and are doing child sacrifice in the basement of a pizza shop then you lost touch with reality and need help.

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RotateTombUnduly t1_j76x6aq wrote

I can't help but note the irony. The book Bowling Alone is a sociological study of American culture that documents how much more isolated people have become since the 50s, a trend that new tech has accelerated and resulted in poor mental health outcomes. But these people actually bowled. With each other. With other people. Yet they committed this terrible act of ultimate self-harm. Sadly ironic.

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godofleet t1_j76wjjb wrote

it's more than religion IMO ... it's celebrity / institution worship

we are practically programmed from a very early age to accept XYZ person/organization/institution as the final say, as the ultimate, unchanging truth.

this ties into government and corporations too - in the same way people seem to think the US government can do no wrong there are people who think elon musk can do no wrong...

the worst of it is the central banks - without any doubts, we all trust that money will just "work" and isn't inherently corrupted or corruptible despite central bankers being just another tiny series of greedy, manipulatable, biased, coercible [etc] human beings... an intuition as fallible as any.

surely the best solution would be a system of rules, without rulers... something rooted in nature that maintains a verifiably ledger/record of truth for everyone and anyone- based on energy itself perhaps... and at least with regard to money, this actually exists now- don't overlook bitcoin, it's perhaps the most important discovery our species has ever made in the effort to stop worshiping and trusting, god-kings and centralized institutions and instead rely on a properly decentralized, for-the-people-by-the-people monetary network.

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