Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania

seraphimofthenight t1_j81lsay wrote

lmao wages haven't tracked with increased productivity over past 40 years, if it did min wage would be $30/hr, 60% of americans living paycheck to paycheck and working multiple jobs and apparently they're "too lazy to just work harder and pay for insurance." Either healthcare is paid for by taxes overwhelmingly paid for by middle and lower class or it gets baked into benefits for employers to stay competitive, nothing is free in this world and average honest to god working people are the ones paying for it either way with their labor!

3

thenewtbaron t1_j81lk5a wrote

I am going to have to disagree with your assessment on the return of investment

a rheem 50 gallon regular electric 9 year tank costs 700$
A rheem 50 gallon heatpump 10 year tank costs 1700$

So, with a heatpump, you are playing 1000$ more for the difference. that is 100$/year.

Will the system save 100$/year? odds are, yes.

if we take the estimated annual usage of the regular tank and the heat pump and divide it per month we'll get.

regular tank 3400kwh/12 = 283kwh/month
heat pump 837 kwh/12 = 70kwh/month.

If the heat pump runs like a regular water heater for the months that have below 70-80 temperatures but like a heat pump at 70-80 temperature averages then 8 months at regular and 4 months at heat pump, that comes to 2544kwh. The rate average on the energyguide is 14 cents/kwh.

so, you'd save 856kwh or about 120$/year. that means you'd get 20$ worth of savings in a year, 200$ for ten years.

Now, the Rheem HP water heater says it can work down to about 40 degrees, my basement floats around 60 in the winter and if I throw it near the washer/dryer it will get a bit more heat from those being run. Add to the fact that not everyone in my household takes showers at the same time, so it will allow the heatpump to be able to regen the heat over a longer period of time.

So if we up the usage to half the year rather than a quarter of the year, we are at 2118 kwh, so saving 1280 kwh per year, we are at 180$ per year total savings. or a savings of 80$/year or 800$/10 years including the 100$/year purchase.

or another way to think about it, is that is will pay itself off in about 5 years, and you should get another 5 out of it. If you have the money, why not, it will save you money and at the worst of times, it is just a regular water heater.

the tanksless ones are dumb though for northern climes

8

reddit_mouse t1_j81jbfg wrote

I love how the school leaders read the curriculum at one of the Board meeting to show there was zero chance the concerned parents would have their tender little snowflake feelings hurt and that the curriculum contained absolutely zero contamination from Critical Race Theory or similarly dangerous ideas. All to no effect; the rabid “Mom’s for Liberty” continued to froth their unfounded tirade of lies.

It’s all a coordinated distraction. By being so ridiculous in their logic, conservatives force their opponents into having to explain the obvious to these dipshits — meaning the right controls the conversation. Each time they pull this stunt is that much less time there is for meaningful issues to come to light.

15