Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania

cpr4life8 t1_j91xya3 wrote

What if we make more room for people who truly should in prison by setting free people who are there for minor offenses like marijuana possession? Then we don't have to build new ones.

Before Trump there had been no federal executions for 17 years. All it takes is the "right" person in office to crank up that death machine again. 1999 was the last execution in PA.

And last time I checked, I don't believe our legal system allows victims of a crime to decide the punishment - nor should it.

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shanafme t1_j91x70b wrote

Agreed. “Altoona Pizza” is just a meme that a few local businesses are trying to capitalize off of in their final days. However, “Altoona Hotel Pizza” was a legitimate thing and is what these memes are based off of. The Altoona Hotel did in fact serve pizza like that for years prior to its burning down maybe 10 years ago.

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illbeinthewoods t1_j91x3ka wrote

For sure. The borough did a great job of using tax abatements to bring businesses in and revitalize the town. I had looked to move there in 2008 because it was cheap but never found anything I liked at my price point. I didn't end up there until 2016 (renting) stayed for 6 years and loved it! When we were looking to buy we decided the we wanted more house for our money and moved out to a more country area.

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B-Eze t1_j91wn62 wrote

What if it is more of a spacial reason. Who wants another prison in their area. How many more trees are we going to cut down?

One could argue in making our current prisons taller on the same foot print for increased space.

What if death is what the victim/family feel is justice. If you murdered my child in your rape/homicide spree, I would want you dead. I would personally like to make that happen but that isn't what a civilized society does. We let the court system decide and administer the humane, expensive, 3 round shot series if sentenced to death.

If I remember correctly no one has been sentenced to death in PA since the 70's?

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Wise-Cap-7135 t1_j91ssq2 wrote

Not meaningless. Outlawing capital punishment would save the state millions of dollars in the legal fees it costs to even seek the death penalty. Trials and subsequent appeals in capital punishment cases costs taxpayers millions.

Of course, pro-state murder proponents call for an end to appeals, which quite frankly scares the fucking shit out of me.

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axeville t1_j91sca5 wrote

I respect your beliefs.

I don't believe a fetus is human w rights before they exit the womb. I believe medical professionals are best qualified to make decisions involving health and human life. Moral and ethical considerations they make daily.

You can respect mine by not passing legislation that restricts my beliefs. There is a huge right wing industry built upon grass roots efforts to take my rights away and restrict my beliefs.

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cpr4life8 t1_j91sbz2 wrote

I think a lot of that stems from the uninformed who think it's cheaper to execute than to imprison for life. Some of those uninformed will then go on to argue that the appeals process should be changed so the state can expedite murder of a citizen. And they willfully ignore the fact that many who were wrongfully convicted no longer have the chance to appeal because the state killed them. Sometimes due to a technicality in which new evidence is still ignored.

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AlVic40117560_ t1_j91sbd8 wrote

Even with the current slow process, there have been plenty of examples of people being proved innocent after the government killed them. Imagine how much worse it’d be if it was a quick process.

Put a loved one into that situation. They literally didn’t commit a crime. They go through the whole process and they put them to death for a crime that they didn’t commit. A few years later, they come out and say they made a mistake, someone else did it. If they were still alive, at least they could be let free. But they’re dead you can’t take that back. They killed your mother/father/sister/brother/son/daughter because the other side had better lawyers and was trying to get a good conviction rate. That’s fucked. Putting one family through that is not worth killing to guilty people. And it’s already a whole lot more than just one family with the current process.

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