Pawtucket. Took a right out of the parking lot. Next right. Another right. And then another right back into the lot. “You passed”. No shit.

It's not just the level of risk on the individual level, it's that the reward is such a low-percentage pipe dream that it feels like a waste of time and energy (pun intended) to even discuss it.

As for how to fix it? I'd maybe stop looking for short term solutions to long-term problems. The volatility of electricity pricing goes way deeper than corporate greed by any one company.

Maybe I'm confused with Pachaug State Forest

Yes. There should be nothing between the meter and the primary breaker panel.

Even if they shut off the entirety of the state, they’d still exist and still own their assets.

The state would likely have to come in and pay the bill for everyone, so you’d still be paying.

Grindr has the best footlongs in the state!!

I think it's also helpful to link out to articles explaining the rate hikes.

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/state/2022/10/29/ri-utility-bills-regulators-approve-higher-gas-rates-bill-credits/69599867007/

https://www.wpri.com/money/9-6-gas-rate-hike-approved-for-ri-energy-customers

I'm not so sure, check these out:

https://ritrialsclub.com/

https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/rhode_island_14297/ride_1e72.htm

I did some volunteer work at acadia and there was an outbuilding full of dirt bike competition trophies. While I was there, I saw a few guys unload their bikes in front of department of environment workers and tear off out into the woods.

lol Tasca sucks. They sold me a car with an “aftermarket exhaust”. I look underneath it and the flex pipe snapped so there was just.. no exhaust.

Is there like a marketplace or something to see the rates of all the suppliers?

it is good. been there a bunch. my mom lives nearby.

East Greenwich oyster bar.

Two Ten was good. Haven’t been there in a long time though.

> who gives a shit if its cut off now mid winter (thankfully not an option) or when its warmer. That's irrelevant to whether or not RIE would be impacted by enough people deciding at once not to pay.

Those two are connected, don't you see it? The number of people who would be willing to skip a bill and immediately have their power shut off and account sent to collections is waaaaaaay smaller than the people who would be willing to skip a bill with zero repercussions for at least two months.

> Are you even reading my posts? The one at the top of this chain where I am arguing for collective action?

Yes, and I just read it again. It reads like you're trying to discourage people from even considering it. Here's a quick breakdown:

> Americans as a whole are terminally poisoned against it.

Peer pressure, saying no one does it so you shouldn't either.

> you get downvoted and ridiculed for even suggesting that public protest / collective action even be attempted.

A warning to not even talk about it

> they just get cut off without any progress made at all.

False info to further discourage it.

Look, I am sure you're not some undercover pro-corporate operative. BUT, if someone was one, I'd expect them to say very similar things. Start with a toothless word of support to appear to be on "the right" side, then dive into several reasons why no one should consider collective action.

When I went in Pawtucket. They had me drive around the block and park along and empty curb. It was so weird.

I looked into putting solar on my house this past summer, but I have some trees that need to get removed. I also have some electrical work that will need to be done to realize all the benefits of solar, and switch from oil heat/hot water to a heat-pump based system. So for the time being, solar is being put off until I get these other things taken care of.

I'm angry about the rate hikes as well. I don't know how they expect a lot of people to afford it. I'm also not confident that the programs available to assist people are being leveraged to the extent that they could be, or reaching the maximum number of people that need that help. I also wholeheartedly agree with holding local politicians accountable. There have been efforts to build some new solar farms in Richmond over the past couple years, but a lot of people seem dead-set against it. During campaign season last fall I received a few visits from aspiring politicians and that was usually one of the topics I brought up. I got some sympathetic responses, but I'm not sure how sincere they all were to embracing things like solar and wind.

Are you even reading my posts? The one at the top of this chain where I am arguing for collective action?

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Instead you focus on the "power cut off" content, who gives a shit if its cut off now mid winter (thankfully not an option) or when its warmer. That's irrelevant to whether or not RIE would be impacted by enough people deciding at once not to pay.

2nd vote for both suck

My experience with Tasca service was lousy. They won't get a recommendation from me.

Yes it is a calculated risk, what other pressure can be provided to facilitate change? Elections haven't done so, regulations haven't prevented it. When it gets to the extent that enough people can barely afford the service anyway then the likelihood of it happening increases.

I loved the experience of buying a car from them but the service department does absolutely nothing. I went to get my tires rotated and literally nothing was fixed.

$ kWh $/kWh
Jan-22 $144.15 586 0.245989761

Feb-22 $141.89 581 0.244216867

Mar-22 $142.11 580 0.245017241

Apr-22 $139.42 599 0.232754591

May-22 $151.81 699 0.217181688

Jun-22 $291.92 1386 0.210620491

Jul-22 $342.38 1637 0.209150886

Aug-22 $419.14 2019 0.207597821

Sep-22 $271.75 1293 0.210170147

Oct-22 $247.63 964 0.256877593

Nov-22 $173.08 558 0.310179211

Dec-22 $136.53 449 0.304075724

2200 sq ft new house, propane heat, water and stove. 2 adults no children. Summer running pool pump and A/C. You can see the spike during the heat wave. I just straight up divided the total price by kWh used because you are still paying those fees...

Installing solar doesn't pay off for me unless I'm there 8-9 years at least.

Thanks for this. Good luck everyone

I also added a solar array + battery (last year) and have been using HomeAssistant for a few years.

You said it yourself, monopolistic power company. My anger is on behalf of those who cannot do anything but eat shit over rate hikes and have very few / no options but to do so. I (and probably you) have had the luxury to spend money up front to get ahead of things like this and save.

It all falls back into the "it's expensive to be poor" trap. It sucks. Holding local politicians accountable for appointments to oversight positions etc and those who vote down new generation facilities or methods are also part of the process and something I've invested a lot of time in since moving to RI.

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e: what do you use to capture current data for your HA system? I've not done anything for usage monitoring just a lot of presence based and time based automation / made a few control kiosks etc from old tablets and such.

Adding more housing, in theory, should lower housing prices by making supply closer to demand, lowering the cost of living.

Cost of living is a complex issue and the state can't waive a wand, push a button, or pass a bill that will automatically lower it.