Recent comments in /f/RhodeIsland

DrewCrew62 t1_jbuaq2r wrote

Thanks!

We got exceptionally lucky; just right place/right time to get what we did. The roof has to be done sooner than later, but otherwise the bones of the house are in good shape (furnace, water heater, etc). It’s definitely a tough market, but all I can say is hang in there, and something will find it’s way to you

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johnnyrockets527 t1_jbu7262 wrote

Like u/captain_carrot, I know someone that works for them.

Don’t want to give any details, it’s a small state and a small company and they’ve been getting rid of staff like crazy. But the numbers he’s throwing out are very similar to what I’ve heard. They’re overdue on a lot of “final collection notice” payments.

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fishythepete t1_jbu39x1 wrote

This is pretty typical for how large construction firms fail. If you’re slow / no paying vendors you’re way beyond just job borrow. The thing that surprises me the most here is that their surety holder is loaning them money.

Surety companies are not usually in the business of taking on risk, and usually are looking to make sure the surety they’re providing is fully collateralized. If the bond holder defaults they liquidate collateral to pay the bond. The fact that they’re only now identifying assets that could collateralize bonds is concerning, as is the fact that the surety firm is loaning them money. In theory a bond holder’s default shouldn’t financially impact the surety agent, and so there’s no incentive to lend money to an ailing firm that already can’t meet its financial obligations. But if you’ve been lazy or generous with collateral asset valuations, you might suddenly find that you have a bunch of undercollateralized obligations that you might need to pay on. So maybe you loan the construction company money to close a bunch of bonds and leave someone else holding the bag.

Either way, some companies recover, some companies go from “everything’s fine and solvent” to “bankruptcy” in a few days, and there’s a lot in the middle.

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