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cowperthwaite t1_jcau6g6 wrote

2020: Mulligan's Island proposal is pulled.

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/local/2020/12/17/developers-proposed-costco-project-off-table/3906289001/

2021: Mayor says Costco can come, but not Mulligan's Island

https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news/west-bay/mayor-costco-still-welcome-in-cranston-just-not-on-mulligans-island-property/

2021: City council denies restart of Costco rezoning at Mulligans.

https://pbn.com/cranston-denies-restart-of-costco-project-rezoning-at-mulligans-island/

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August 2022: "NBC 10's Gene Valicenti says his well-placed sources confirm (the former Citizens Bank property in Cranston) will be a Costco Wholesale club. The developer said nothing’s been signed."

https://turnto10.com/amp/news/local/costco-warehouse-club-cranston-rhode-island-sockanosset-cross-road-route-37-traffic-development-department-of-transportation-topgolf

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Beezlegrunk OP t1_jcapnxa wrote

It’s a matter of debate and discussion if people actually take the time to debate and discuss it — the point is that the BEANs never care about those things, so they never bother to engage on the issue of financial viability: it’s just build, build, build, whether it makes financial sense or not. There’s no due diligence in saying, “If some rich guy wants to build here, we have to do anything and everything we can to help him.”

But your premise is flawed, because the rest of us did debate the viability of the project: Many Redditors criticized the subsidies as excessive and unnecessary, and questioned whether more luxury apartments were needed in Providence (spoiler: they’re not) — and therefore would generate the occupancy, rents, and taxes needed to recoup the project financing.

Elorza was hardly a NIMBY, and he vetoed it. Salvatore works in real estate and he didn’t think it would work. That had nothing to do with the building’s excessive height or Pippi Longstocking design. (Most people forget the original design proposed three towers side-by-side.) It was a white-elephant boondoggle from the beginning.

The reason it didn’t get even more financial scrutiny was that the state legislature and media are a bunch of BEANs too. Boston Globe bureau chief Dan McGowan is a sports reporter who admits he never even bothered to look into the financial aspects of the proposal because he accepted Fane’s shallow, Music Man-type hype as gospel.

And the same thing will happen on the next proposal, and every one after that — RI has such a strong inferiority complex that it’ll drop its panties for any developer who promises to make it feel special — and says the magic words that intoxicate BEANs and other shallow thinkers: “jobs”, “taxes”, and “housing.” Developers know that all they have to do is sprinkle those words throughout their otherwise empty presentations and the panties come down …

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_jcaj3k6 wrote

>The cheerleading BEANs never care about this sort of thing, which is why they should be ignored when they mindlessly tout any and every project whether it’s viable or not …

That would hold water if the project's viability was matter of debate or public discussion. I've spent years reading articles and discussions on the building and pretty much nobody was talking about that angle. Hell, even the primary quote source in this column admits he bit his lip on that piece of the equation.

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johnnyrockets527 t1_jcac5wv wrote

Reply to comment by Coincel_pro in RISE Buys - by RhodyViaWIClamDigger

It’s been dogshit since rec became a thing.

I’m a medical patient…I put my order in online, wait for the message that it’s ready, and our line is getting lapped by the rec users because they have four budtenders doing their orders to our one.

I’ve been sticking to the drive through at Slater lately.

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