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[deleted] t1_j4shpn1 wrote
Reply to comment by concarmail in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
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HumansMustBeCrazy t1_j4sgc82 wrote
Reply to We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
We are the ones that define what alive is.
When we make up the rules you can always expect there to be inconsistencies.
Stunning_Regret6123 t1_j4sc39n wrote
Reply to We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
A significant percentage of your body is alive and isn’t even technically human. Are symbiotic bacteria also you?
concarmail t1_j4s7ntc wrote
Reply to comment by The-Elder-King in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
Your parents lied to you and told you that you weren’t just a rock. You’ve believed them since then. A rock has complex lattice systems, but no sense of inside or outside. Why run from entropy when you are the environment into which you decay? The only reason you continue being you is your decision to deny the fact that you are not (your parents made this decision before you did). You are an instance of temporary and extremely local organization and complexity, but you ultimately serve to push the universe further towards entropy with your actions after all is done.
The-Elder-King OP t1_j4s7b3a wrote
Reply to comment by VerboseWarrior in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
Just like I mentioned in a previous comment, there is a curious aspect about these chemical reactions. You see, a rock will decade eventually and so do we, but our reactions constantly try to adjust to the thermodynamics instead of following them. A structure in our body was broken by giving it energy? No problem, so long as I feed the system with new energy I can rebuild the damaged part and make it back to what it is not supposed to be anymore. It’s even more curious knowing that this can’t happen forever but does happen.
The-Elder-King OP t1_j4s6iio wrote
Reply to comment by concarmail in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
But the relations between my atoms are the same as the ones between a rock’s atoms. They still exchange electrons, they still answer the physical laws in the same way. But my relations, differently from a rock, have a sense which is literally trying to go against the universe thermodynamic fundamentals: we constantly try to overcome entropy. Why a rock doesn’t do the same?
VerboseWarrior t1_j4s4buj wrote
Reply to We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
Life is just a set of very, very complex chemical processes.
The disconnect here is just our intrinsic understanding of life as a holistic quality rather than as the sum of a metric fuckton of chemical processes.
concarmail t1_j4s36xc wrote
Reply to We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
You aren’t constituted of the atoms that make you up, but rather the relations between them. This is why you are more “alive” than your parts individually.
treethirtythree t1_j4s207o wrote
Reply to comment by The-Elder-King in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
Why would that be a problem? For doubts, they will always exist and I kind of like it that way. It leaves room for possibility and wonder.
The-Elder-King OP t1_j4s12me wrote
Reply to comment by treethirtythree in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
I like your answer but leaves plenty of room for doubts. If, let’s say, carbon atoms that compose your body are considered alive, then it means that the mineral that will be formed in billions of years somewhere else in the universe - with the very same carbon atoms that make you today - will also be alive.
treethirtythree t1_j4rzdm3 wrote
Reply to comment by The-Elder-King in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
It's a good question and a line that has likely moved several times over the course of human history. We define things according to our understanding and then measure with tools that we have available. To think that either is complete would appear to be a mistake given the history.
The-Elder-King OP t1_j4ryn5i wrote
Reply to comment by treethirtythree in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
They don’t meet the criteria to be considered alive, yet when they are all together in particular order and groups they do meet the criteria as a whole. Where is the line that separates alive to not-alive?
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treethirtythree t1_j4ryccg wrote
Reply to We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
You can't prove that they're not alive, only that you lack the ability to communicate with them.
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HighLordTherix t1_j2fxin2 wrote
Reply to There are two types of air-fryer owners. Those who have one and never use it, and those who use it too often. There is no middle ground by PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES
We've been using ours a fair amount since it's a good amount cheaper than the oven.
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interlopenz t1_j2fx4ln wrote
Reply to comment by Gcodelife in There are two types of air-fryer owners. Those who have one and never use it, and those who use it too often. There is no middle ground by PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES
Regardless of the down votes you are right that they are terrible.
braydenmaine t1_j2fwrqp wrote
Reply to There are two types of air-fryer owners. Those who have one and never use it, and those who use it too often. There is no middle ground by PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES
How can you use it "too much" ?
You can eat cooked food every day if you want. Air fryers cook food. It's just a small convection oven
10xkaioken t1_j2fwooo wrote
Reply to comment by nightlyh in There are two types of air-fryer owners. Those who have one and never use it, and those who use it too often. There is no middle ground by PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES
Thank you for representing us
concarmail t1_j4slrtl wrote
Reply to comment by The-Elder-King in We are living beings, yet every single atom that constitutes our bodies isn’t alive. by The-Elder-King
To your reply which you’ve removed:
I don’t see how this couldn’t continue to be a promising discussion. I didn’t mention your parents to offend you, but to establish the fact that our maintenance of our own vitality is a tradition which begins with our community’s actions and is then taken on by ourselves.
I understand your post and that you do not think a rock is a living being. My point is that you, with enough inaction, would revert to the same inorganic compounds from which the rock is formed. In the same sense, parts of the rock could slowly become parts of amino acids, given that the reverse is happening somewhere in greater quantity.
A rock is not living yet or anymore. Nothing belongs to the category of living or non-living, and objects will become one or the other without their own volition. After this point of genesis, some level of self-awareness instilled by external objects will give the object the tools to continue this process. Alternatively, we all have the choice to go back home, to the rocks.
I am very sorry if I have offended you by making my argument in a disconnected fashion and mentioning unnecessary things, I just think it’s an interesting conversation and don’t believe in the distinction you have noted between our non-living components and our subjective selves.