Why would you reuse batteries in cars? If it has lost enough capacity to be taken out and replaced then you don't put it in again. You put it somewhere where the lowered energy density doesn't matter. Portable battery packs, off-grid cabins, peak shaving setups, hybrid conversions etc. Reusing battery cells is far easier than repairing a transmission.

No, batteries don't cost more than a car. A 30 kWh leaf battery can be had for less than 5k. You'd likely spend more than that in maintenance on an ICE over 10 years.

You say any diesel is 99% likely to make 500k miles. First of all, that is BS. Second of all, plenty of taxi companies have driven EVs for 1m+ miles. There is a reason why they are the car of choice for taxi services.

As for car emissions being a relatively small source of emissions - sure. But it's also one of the easiest sources of emissions to get rid of. The technology is already here. I think a more important often overlooked point is the effect smart charging systems and recycled batteries have on allowing us to build a more dynamic grid capable of being powered by cheap unreliable renewables. Renewables don't work well enough without storage - old electric cars get turned into cheap grid storage, which makes a full renewable transition easier.

the bit where it said they were required to talk to their family about it makes it seem like the organs are owed to the family and they have to sign off on you giving the organs away.

Which feels absurd, if it was just a matter of making the patient aware their organs could be used for family they could just state that in the disclaimers.

> a good chunk of that experience is the incredibly loud noises of what only a combustion engine can muster.

I couldn’t help but laugh at this. “We like race because car go BRRRRRR” It sounds ridiculous, but you’re right.

Maybe they could keep our monkey brains excited by adding fake engine noises like this Dodge EV muscle car.

......you mean like what they and all other manufacturers have been mandated to do for more than a decade now? Cool, thanks for making this seem like you actually care about the environment and not just trendy misdirecting soundbite headlines.

It's like the hermit crab shell shuffle, but for kidneys! Awww

> and EVs hold their value far better than anything else.

Where? The tech is outdated, there are no more software updates for it, and the battery pack degraded by that time. If I buy a 100k mile diesel from a known reliable car, I'm 99% sure it'll be able to do 500k without any major cost, replacement. And at 500k, it is capable of doing the same performance, mileage, as it did from the factory.

> Batteries from old EVs get broken down and reused all the time as well.

I know it's doable. Question is, who would you trust with this? Companies can barely repair a transmission, and this is way more complicated. You can't go to dealerships because they'll just order a new pack which costs more than a car, new.

I know what you mean, I know about the Prius battery refresh and stuff. But there may be 10 shops you could trust around the world. Good luck servicing hundreds of thousands of cars like that.

Ps.: I like EVs, but they are plagued by so many issues. I think efficient and clean petrol engines like Mazda's, or hybrids like what's Toyota is making... makes a lot more sense and is the solution.

Also, unfortunately, replacing most cars would still barely make a dent in emissions. Ships, heavy machinery, trucks, buses, they all use diesel and they contribute to the ever changing climate way more.

I dont think its an "owe" thing.

I had been reading this whole thread and it never even occurred to me that one of MY family members would even need one my kidneys.

Electric Century? Swap that buttery smooth V12 for a torquey electric motor

It's funny one of the most rare things happens to be on reddit in the same comment chain, someone's mother, and two people themselves.

It's internet so forgive me for my skepticism.

Your history shows talking about personality disorders and anxiety/depression. I don't think they would have let you donate, but I don't let false information fill my mind.

This is not uplifting. There is no such thing as a car that is good for the environment. If we all switched to electric that would still be bad because designing cities around cars as default causes the problem.

Electric cars need electricity and we get that from fossils fuels

Wouldn't kill it but... a good chunk of that experience is the incredibly loud noises of what only a combustion engine can muster.

EVs have their whine but IMHO it's not the same.

That being said Rally is already on it's conversion over and F1 has hybrid systems too so it's just a matter of time.

Suspect endurance races will end or be highly dependent on battery quick releases of some sort.

We have had a large used market for EVs for the last decade and EVs hold their value far better than anything else.

Batteries from old EVs get broken down and reused all the time as well. Battery packs from crashed cars go for $5k+

Well in all the life cycle analysis studies they come out far ahead of ICE. If they are only used for a little less than a year they come ahead.

This is why I went with a Mazda cx30 (also the fact that only well off people are able to buy an electric vehicle), sure it's not the MOST fuel efficient but it checks all the boxes for me.

That's good information to know, thank you!

May all Rhinoceros be happy

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They have been investing billions a year into solid state batteries. They can afford it.

Current battery tech isn't that great and we will run into problems if we keep going with it.

Betting on two horses is the smart thing. Besides that, hydrogen might be the better option for heavy trucks.

This is why they're endangered, Steven!

EVs are not that eco friendly at all; I really don't get the big push.

Pushing people to newer cars that emit less would make way more sense. For example, truckers are switching (if they are able to) because the new trucks consume so much less fuel and the emission issues have been worked out.

But this EV thing. Man, there will be so many batteries and cars dumped in a few years. Even just the depreciation is way faster, because of all the tech. I kinda hate this world, haha.

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its really weird that she was required to talk to her family about this as if we owe family members our organs.

I feel you. Our lives are at worth it, knowing we made others' lives better, that we saved a life.

I haven't donated tissue, (yet?) but I know I have been in the right place at the right time to save at least one life. I draw comfort from knowing that I made a positive difference somewhere.

Tha's a good egg, as we say round these parts. 🧡

Why EVs will kill motorsport?

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