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AftyOfTheUK t1_j64p3gm wrote

Reply to comment by azimir in Amsterdam’s underwater parking garage fits 7,000 bicycles and zero cars by Ok_Champion6840

>We're going to have to shrink our car infrastructure, build denser cities, and construct serious public transportation to serve the core, not stroad-based big box stores and low density suburbs.

I would have agreed with you a few decades ago, but with the advent of all-electric self driving cars, many of the negatives associated with high levels of driving will not be of concern anymore. Being driven is more relaxing, less susceptible to whether, more productive (you can take calls, work or read while on the move) and more private.

America's poor choices for the latter part of last century and the early part of this century are about to be partially undone. There will still be heat islands and lack of biodiversity because of the larger amounts of concrete, but over time that can be reduced as cars don't need to park (like a taxi, they just move to the next job) and fewer lanes will be needed (because the cars themselves can safely travel more quickly, and in more dense road-trains)

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SubjectiveAlbatross t1_j64n9cm wrote

Reply to comment by Randouser555 in Amsterdam’s underwater parking garage fits 7,000 bicycles and zero cars by Ok_Champion6840

€60 million is an absolute bargain for something this big, right in the heart of the city too.

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>is a trek to and from the facility

It's literally under the canal directly in front of the station square, and has a direct tunneled passage into the station. Around 150 meters center-to-center.

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kalaminu t1_j64mexd wrote

Reply to comment by alc4pwned in Amsterdam’s underwater parking garage fits 7,000 bicycles and zero cars by Ok_Champion6840

Ofc they're not but my point still stands. Doin nothing will be more expensive in the long run, both in financial terms and human costs.

The sensible ones of us know that the real polluters and wasters is big business who have done a very effective job of convincing the public they need to recycle when we all know that waste is their #1 product. And don't get me started on the super rich buzzing around on their private jets pumping out more co2 that whole countries.

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JamesKojiro t1_j64jq8s wrote

Reply to comment by DefinitionMission144 in Amsterdam’s underwater parking garage fits 7,000 bicycles and zero cars by Ok_Champion6840

Actually biking-centric infrastructure is relatively new. In the 80's they were building Rotterdam to be a car-haven, but if there is one thing the Dutch hate, it's being called German. If there's a second thing they hate, it's dead children.

So, after a few kids got run over they scrapped the car-centric infrastructure for good. Whilst biking-centric infrastructure is only a few decades old, The Netherlands is still eons ahead of the rest.

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alc4pwned t1_j64iss8 wrote

Reply to comment by kalaminu in Amsterdam’s underwater parking garage fits 7,000 bicycles and zero cars by Ok_Champion6840

You say that as though you think cars are the primary cause of climate change. Even in a very car dependent place like the US, personal vehicles only make up like 11% of total CO2 emissions. EVs will lower that significantly. I think a lot of people are hyper-focusing on cars and ignoring many of the much bigger problems. Comfortable western lifestyles are incredibly carbon intensive in general, even in the Netherlands.

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