I've never seen that marina so empty. Must have hauled the boat's for winter. I hate coming and going from there since it's so tight but it's got some beautiful boats and the sailing there is great

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That's awesome!

Yeah, they definitely come across as the more militant atheist type to me. Not so much the "I don't believe in a deity, please respect that and stop trying to convert me" type as the "there is no deity, you are stupid for believing so, I am suing you because you decorated your office in accordance with your faith" type. Ironically, atheists who embody many of the traits that turn people off to blowhard theists. Which is too bad, because there are definitely important issues that they try to address, but their heavy-handed approach makes it easier to dismiss them as irrational and intolerant.

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I'm a nontheist myself, but I'm not a huge fan of the freedom from religion commercials. That guy just comes off as pretentious. Sure, I don't want religious zealots telling me what to do, but I don't want atheists telling me not to be religious. It sounds like they do some good work, but maybe they just need some better advertising.

Not alot of experience over there but 9-10 am seemed like a good break. Are you restricted on which days? I'd be tempted to work weekends and make my weekend Monday-Tuesday or something like that.

I definitely agree about the inexperience. People have to get experience somehow. They should just be considered negligent if they don’t chain up when required. Or if it is very obvious that they were driving too fast for conditions (I.e. damage done to vehicle/guardrails/etc)

I think there probably are studies. But inexperience, say overcorrecting or going too fast for conditions aren't necessarily negligence. I mean right now my street is an ice rink and 10 mph is too fast for conditions.

That must be so frustrating when you’re doing that drive so much! And good call on hwy 2. That’s a winter driving nightmare.

The semis are a HUGE problem. I follow WSDOT on social media as they are very good with their communication; I feel like a lot of human caused closures are jack knifed and overturned semis. But they also frequently mention unprepared drivers. It’s actually what spurred me posting this yesterday.

Is that sparkly paint used for the reflections in the water? I'm in LOVE with that!!!

And this seems to result in people following the law? It seems like it might just be a matter of enforcement!

Ah, just a misunderstanding :)

I do think it could be proven, but I guess it’s a matter of the resources to do it.

Beautiful how you did the lights on the water

And apparently no good graphic designers

It’s a typical response to tell you that I already did the research but am just being thorough? Sometimes feedback from actual people provides different perspectives than just plugging info into a GPS or search engine. There’s a reason that if you Google a question that “Question + Reddit” usually pops up as a most searched option. Plenty of people want to see personal viewpoints. If you don’t agree that’s okay, but you’re being a bit rude for no reason.

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So did I! Lutsen!

The google data is from years of empirical data collection, from thousands and thousands of individuals, compared to what 5 or 6 people here with more limited sample sizes will tell you.

But yeah, your's is the typical response when anyone points out that you can answer the question, faster, and more better using Google. I don't think we're ever coming back from that.

Thanks, I have done this, I was just hoping to get some personal input from someone who makes a similar commute.

You can go on Google Maps and route Tacoma to Tumwater. Then you can click the Depart At... clock and scroll along in 15 minute intervals. You'll see when the slowdowns start to develop.

I can almost see my house from here!

The improvements in cars actually embolden people to be more confidently risky. Thirty years ago when I hit the slopes everyone drove FWD sedans, chains on, at 25mph up the pass. Nowadays people with huge AWD SUVs and all-season tires fly by me at 60+mph.

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On the Sierras chains are required. They will make you go back down if they catch you without