Came here to say the same thing. I have done exactly this several times. They know you got here when you tell them. Simple as that.

When they say you have 30 days to register your car it means if you get pulled over and a cop asks you how long you have lived here and you say 9 months, they write you up for failing to register the car within the 30 days. Same for licenses. They have no knowledge how long you or the vehicle have been in WA unless you tell them. So get it registered. It probably won't even be an issue.

They don't know how long you've been here. You have to take it for a wsp inspection and then just go get in licensed... If they don't ask when you moved don't tell and if they do, tell them last week.

I didn't think about insurance... that's a good point

I'm sorry you went through that.... I had some shady stuff happen to me when Covid started too, just glad I got to see my employers true side, instead of investing myself longer and drawing out the misery.

I don't currently work for the state so I'm not worried about that. I would actually be hired on with the state to my dream job, and I won't be telling them that I didn't give my shitty corporate job 2 weeks.... let's say Walmart for example, no notice, quit the day before I start the state job, and I don't intend to ever go back, if I'm in a pinch I will easily get a job with their competitors due to my experience.

Thank you for your response :)

No, I'm not and don't believe it's necessary. I believe it's morally wrong to extort people using coercion and the threat of violence no matter the justification. Government has nothing that it hasn't taken from others and exists only to manipulate and force people to the will of corrupt politicians. It's a very uncivilized society.

https://www.justice.gov/atr/antitrust-laws-and-you#:~:text=the%20Consumer%20guide.-,The%20Sherman%20Antitrust%20Act,are%20punishable%20as%20criminal%20felonies.

Based on your username, I get the sense you understand PII and possibly GDPR rules. So you know at a corporate level how serious these things can get.

As with anything, there are loop holes, which I understand. However, a “whoops, trust our guy it was handled in two hours” is negligent.

What I’d like to see is a security audit within pierce county (digital and physical). how records are stored, kept, shared, etc. next, an audit on personnel security levels, and a chain of command for releasing records.

In the event of a breach, what’s the protocol, and how does the county plan to mitigate risk, while protecting its people. A “oh it’s totally cool” piece of mail isn’t on par with standards of where we should be.

Next, what entity requested our data? If it was a company, they should be listed, and we should have communication options to address directly with them. If this was a personal (non entity) request, that person should have a representative from pierce county tagged so we can understand the intent on which this person requested our data.

Lastly, comes the monetary side. While no one may be victim to identity theft which, may lead to erroneous monetary charges, there should be a plan in place to address this should it occur. Pierce had an obligation to help it’s citizens. Listing the three credit agencies doesn’t suffice.

Lastly, let’s say that someone, or a group, is targeted (harassment, violence, etc). This again falls into malicious intent, but dives into more murky waters.

I don’t have the answers. This is just what comes to mind. I’m not a “let’s sue and get everything we can” kinda person. I’m more of a “hey, let’s be a leading example for privacy of our citizens data, and also a leader in mitigating risk to its citizens” kinda guy.

Wow that makes a lot of sense, thank you! It's sad that the IRS tried and they failed. I've wondered why it was so cavalier to give my EIN out, I figured it must not mean as much as the SSN and now I know why!

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it's because SSNs were simply supposed to be ID tax numbers that you could give to anyone. Someone knowing your tax number wasn't meant to confirm your identity. It was just supposed to track how much you put into Social Security. The IRS tried to prevent people from using it as an ID security measure but eventually just gave up.

It's like how business EIN operates. It's literally just a number to track the taxes that the business is responsible for. In some cases it even replaces the business owner's SSN on some forms.

This is actually a pretty common scam for government and why some sectors charge a large fee per page of information. One might for example use the freedom information act to obtain documents/emails from the purchasing department of what ever government entity and hope someone does not notice a credit card number or other sensitive information that was not redacted.

The government already knows your name (you legally have to provide one at birth.) They also know your address because you provide one if you own the house, if you don't there are numerous systems that require you to provide a mailing address, and Washington state IDs require one. They also already know your phone number if it's a landline or can get it from the mobile company at the drop of a hat if it's a cell phone.

So really of the things you mentioned. The phone number is maybe the only thing that the government doesn't have direct access to. Maybe they don't have your address if you've avoided filling out government forms like taxes but likely you are just breaking the law at that point.

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What should come of this?

Yeah I counted wrong, I even remember thinking "7 has to be wrong" but I posted it anyway. I think we all understand the gist of what I was saying, the first 5 digits are based off locations of birth and certificate registration, the last 4 are sequential (basically random from guessing perspective). It's actually scary how little security there is with SSNs especially knowing the potential damage.

Download the app called all trails and you'll have all the information you need. Do keep in mind if you go out of cell service areas to download the map.

Which federal law was broken?

That makes total sense! Thank you for your explanation

I know SSN is already known by the government (duh) but my point is I don’t give out my name, address, phone number etc. for this reason

Just a little oopsie-doodle privacy breach.

The question is, why are voters' addresses and birthdays public information?

your personal information, like the government-issued social security number. You don't think the organization that gave you that SSN doesn't have it already?

other 7? My SSN is only 9 digits long...

Cars need to come with very bright daytime running lights with replaceable LEDs.

I agree with you on the lights being on all the time, but not so much for $10 for headlight bulbs.

I wish they were $10 - modern HID bulbs and ballasts can run in the hundreds of dollars, and if an LED burns out in a headlight cluster you’re probably looking at thousands for a replacement. On top of that, some modern vehicles require extensive labor to even get to some of those parts.