!remindme 10 years.

I highly doubt rents going to be any cheaper because investors like profit and don’t like loss.

See you then.

It's more the other way around. I get annoyed when people say "Washington State".

Not everyone knows how to ride a motorcycle safely. So they require a license to drive one so they know to do so safely. Will this lane splitting require a new license to show the rider understand how to do so safely? No you say? Then no

When I was little I told a kid I lived in Washington and he's like, "the president lives there!"

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I hate clarifying that I live in the state, not DC. Morons.

No its not their problem at all. If your thinking about a developer that has a 200 acre plot he wants to turn into a suburb then sure maybe. But we don't have many of those left. This would affect areas that are already inhabited by single family residents.

Someone that wants to turn a house into a 4 plex can't afford to upgrade the cities sewer system. If its running at capacity what does that mean? they can't build it? The City doesn't have to permit it? But that would quickly put us right back where we started. They do have to permit it?. And when it breaks we will worry about it later or pump the wast into the sound?

I'm all for the change. I'm not even opposed to a lets do it and we will figure it out as we go. But this feels a bit ham handed not considering things area by area. Again local gov is supposed to see to these details and they have had an agenda other then making housing affordable so something has to be done. But there are quite a few moving parts at play the state needs to consider.

Fun fact: they were originally going to name the state Columbia but were concerned people would confuse that with the “district of Columbia”

Oh my god YES

"Where are you from?"

"Spokane, Washington."

"Have you been to the White House?"

Yessss!!!

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No, because the District of Columbia is the more famous Washington. ✨

I mean, the district did have that name many decades before the state did.

The replacement is pretty simple, appointment and $80 for insta title, of course you need to fill out a special form, but it is really easy

Hopefully we make more motorcycle riders like in Europe, and that reduces congestion for all!

I’ve owned and been riding motorcycles for 40 years. Started at 18 on a street 250. Currently own a full size touring bike and a 1200 dual sport. ~400k miles on two wheels. A Seattle native, I’ve riding PNW roads for decades. I’ve also ridden multiple cross country weeks-long trips throughout the US, so I have a lot of experience in many different driving ‘cultures’. There is no way I would split lanes, not the way folks in cars drive, particularly now with all of the distractions of phones and ‘infotainment’ systems. Plus cars, on the whole are much quieter on the inside, which reduces situational awareness of drivers. As a car driver, I’m already hyper alert to the shenanigans yahoos on the road are up to. There’s no way I want to add impatient motorcyclists to the mix.

Stats about less severe injuries due to lane-splitting are highly misleading. The severity of any single collision may be lower, due primarily to the fact that the involved vehicles are moving in the same direction, which reduces the forces imparted on the vehicles during collision events. But the overall number of accidents is likely just as high, if not higher. A motorcycle properly occupying a full lane of travel on a single direction, high density roadway is far more visible to other motorists than if it were continuously operating in those other vehicles’ blind spots. Add the fact that 50% of those blind spots are on the passenger sides of vehicles, which reduces visibility even further.

Lastly, let’s talk about financial responsibility for collisions. California, which is often cited as a ‘successful’ example of lane-splitting, has had no-fault insurance for over 30 years (source: me - I lived in CA for a time). They also have very high insurance rates because of that. Washington is an ‘at fault’ state. How would you like to have to argue to your insurance company that you aren’t at fault when a motorcyclist sideswipes you? Or claims that you moved into him/her as they passed you when you began a properly signaled lane change to moveout of the lane you were already in? Or, as a motorcyclist, argue that the exact opposite of those scenarios was the case? Or, have no-fault insurance and watch your rates skyrocket?

As a rider, I would consider using a shoulder if it were legal, safe and prudent to do so. But in the mix with other inattentive and/or downright hostile drivers? Hard pass.

Edit: My personal experience with California insurance is no longer correct, as pointed out by another poster. California is considered an “at-fault” state like Washington. My position about having to argue who is at fault remains as I originally expressed it

Yaaaaazzzzz! But I'm really irritated when I hear Warshington!

The roadway isn't a line, its a logistical system we've built to move people and fright as efficiently as possible across our community.

Lane splitting is automatically going to make the motorcyclists go faster than cars, plus idiots in cars already trying to weave in and out with no signals. I just don’t see this going well.

I own a house, but I have consistently voted for every increase in housing taxes to support the government and services it provides.

Every law that passes shouldn't NEED to help EVERY person, that's not how you build just and equitable systems.

I mean, speed limits don't stop everyone from speeding, so I'm guessing the riders you don't like aren't prevented from splitting now, so you're really just punishing the most diligent and law abiding right now.

I mean, speed limits don't stop everyone from speeding, so I'm guessing the riders you don't like aren't prevented from splitting now, so you're really just punishing the most diligent and law abiding right now.

I have heard you can take a photo of your registration with your phone, and that’s acceptable. You don’t have to hand the officer your phone, just show them, same with insurance. They both have pretty sensitive info if someone were to break into your car and get ahold of them.

Someone went flying up 16 today between my trailer, and the van next to me, we were doing 60. The van swerved away and almost over corrected into me because he came up so fast (and still revving) and almost pinched the guy between us. If the guy in front of the van had changed lanes we would be sitting there waiting for the emt to scrape him off the road still. Lane splitting is dangerous, motorcyclists already get HOV use, and there is no economical way to make sure everyone that’s lane splitting knows how.

I know people who drove under the influence for 10+ years and never wrecked, doesn’t mean we should make it legal, or ok that they were doing it.

Edit… autocorrected words -_-