Love it that you used Pysht ❤️

How exactly would this fuck up our state? It actually sounds like a pretty beneficial program, and it pushes the cost of recycling back on distributors instead of the current system in Washington where we, the consumers, have to pay for the cost of recycling handling fees and pickups. https://obrc.com/oregons-bottle-bill/whats-special-about-the-oregon-model/

Born, raised, lived in Oregon most of my life. Hate the refund system. I have better things to do then return cans. Not a profit either, to get your money back. Curbside is the way to go. No one wants to return bottles and cans.

Dont remind me

[This is no longer true. ](http://Oregonians, Get Ready To Pay Sales Tax In Washington https://www.opb.org/pf/news/article/oregon-washington-sales-tax-new-law/)

Oregonians no longer get to forgo paying sales tax in Washington. They must save their receipts and claim them all at once. I could see businesses doing this but it seems unlikely that the average Oregonian is doing it.

It is really annoying that Oregon is trying to export their system of deposit up here. When I lived there a few years back, the bottle drop locations were constantly full and if you didn't throw yours all the way to the back, people could open the side door (this is a shipping container where the bags were thrown) and they'd either physically steal the bag of cans or steal it by way of peeling your redemption code off and replacing yours with theirs and having the redemption money put in their account. Now, I live just across the river and have homeless digging through the recycle to take bottles and cans and redeem them in Oregon. They also did this in Oregon. It seems to me like a way to keep them earning cash, though it's definitely an unintended consequence.

I loved living in Oregon but it was much cheaper (at the time) to cross the river and live in Washington. I still love to visit Oregon and have many friends there, but the state has a way of making the most onerous policies. I always like to say, when living there: why do it the right way when you can do it the Oregon way? Washington, in my opinion, is set up more like other states. Oregon likes to reinvent the wheel.

Heck yeah! Do you know how much more recycling would happen? How much less litter there would be? I’m on board. Bottle bills are great.

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How does it work? Does an Oregon resident only provide an ID at the checkout register and get exempted from sales tax?

Beautiful shot! What a lovely mountain. But it does make me wish I was alive to see when St Helens was still the Mt Fuji of WA

We Washingtonians have our reasons for disliking Oregon. If I go to work in Oregon but still live in Washington, (I live on the border between us), they charge state income tax. When they come here to shop, we forgive them the state sales tax. Now they want to make us pay deposit? (insert choice cuss words here).

This is beautiful. Do you sell prints online?

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Why does everyone care who he sleeps with. Everyone is consenting adults and so far nobody had cried rape or abuse. So in my book it’s okay.

My standard tip is 20%. I don't use DoorDash much (maybe once or twice in a lifetime) but when I did I tipped that amount. If it's a real small order I will bump it up to an amount that makes it worth the driver's while, so $2 if the item is $5. That's so little they are likely taking a loss on it - counting their time as money and knowing the shafting those people get from their "employer." In my state there's no "tipped employee" wage like many states have, which is like $2.13/hr. But they still don't get paid what they are worth.

>So make the can different.

This is how it works in Ohio/Michigan.

No worries, take care!

I didn't get it either but here's what I found. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/government-agency-mocks-leonardo-dicaprio-alleged-romance-teen-1780080%3famp=1

I am a spectator from GA. Don't knock down your brotherly state; Oregon. I see it as a healthy sibling rivalry. At least Oregon is more sane than your eastern neighbor, Idaho. We, on the other hand, are still a crazy southern state, but every surrounding state, starting with Alabama and Florida, outfoxxes us on that department. I wish I was in the'cascadia' neighborhood.

I'm in a rural area with shitty reception and surrounded by chaos at the moment. I can barely hear myself think, much less get out a coherent thought. But it does seem that I forgot I was in the Washington sub, where people tend to be much more reasonable and open to dialogue. I appreciate your responses, and apologize for coming across as prickly. Generally speaking, I tend to be a bit of a prick. It takes a lot of effort not to be one every time I open my mouth or start typing.

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And this isn’t even Oregon, it is Oregon’s business interests pushing an agenda…

> But we could do better. That starts with actually taking care of the people who are expected to do the dirty, dangerous work. I loved my fire position, but the pay just wasn't worth the risk, so I took a non fire position.

To be clear, in case it wasn't, we are in agreement here.

Additionally, I was definitely trying to open a dialogue rather than shut you down.

>So yeah, it rubs me the wrong way when people say things like "Pay the meme makers more!" but aren't also saying, "Do more to retain your fire staff before the whole system topples!"

I can definitely understand this frustration. That said, when people say things like "the Wendy's social media manager needs a pay raise", I think most are just saying it in jest, to exemplify how much they enjoyed something. It's certainly how I would typically engage with those sorts of statements.

It's important to remember everyone has a limit to their cognitive load - caring and being upset about everything wrong is a burden too much for any one person to carry. While many would agree with and support your feelings around DNR for example, they have 5 million other things on their mind, and so realistically, most people aren't going to dedicate a portion of their limited bucket to care about that issue constantly, even if they agree with and support you when its specifically brought up.

If I ever see some way I can directly impact this via my ballot, I will definitely remember this conversation, so its good of you to bring it up. Just something to consider is, it can sometimes be helpful for people with less patience to try and focus on the message you care about. Your original post, sans the dig at the social media managers pay, would have shared your feelings just as well without having a seeming veneer of "going at" those other people, even if it wasn't your intent.

Easier said then done when passionate - trust me I get it. Just something that might help make your message be one that sticks better with people when it comes up in conversation. People will always remember more how you made them feel than what you said. And if people feel personally attacked or slighted, they are less likely to remember your actual message.

Thanks for your efforts.

NOPE. Fuck Oregon. They can govern themselves and stay the hell out of everyone else's business. Make the cheap fucks pay sales tax in Washington. They're just mad some people buy stuff in Washington and take it back to oregon for deposit. So make the can different. Don't try to make Washington into Oregon. We can fuck our state up just fine without Oregon's help.

Thank you! Super informative! I grew up in the area and wasn’t familiar with this.

I don’t get it, can someone explain?