My city doesnt offer any sort of recycling, will this bill change things? Yes, my cost of good will increase while nothing else changes.

Stop taxing shit for private companies to profit from.

The problem is that so much of the material that gets thrown into recycling bins in Washington doesn't actually get recycled. It's either contaminated or simply can't be recycled.https://ecology.wa.gov/Waste-Toxics/Reducing-recycling-waste/Strategic-policy-and-planning/Contamination-reduction Oregon's system has its own problems, but it at least does a better job of achieving its purpose of actually recycling materials.

>You've openly stated you've never returned cans/bottles, so you're not really qualified to opine on the subject matter as it pertains to the practicality of the experience.

I wasn't offering my opinion on the practicality of the experience. That is why I specifically said I was trying to learn more about the system. It's not an entirely foreign concept to me. I've recycled in other areas, just not specifically in Oregon. And as I stated before, I appreciate the insight into their system, no need for the condescension.

>Curbside pickup is an exceptional value for dollar at $9.17/month.

I still don't see how this is preferable, I live in an urban area, not rural like yourself, and I don't get groceries delivered so I could just drop off my containers when I went to the store right? And if I didn't care about getting the deposit back, I'd still be spending less than the $9.17 a month I currently pay, and wouldn't have to deal with the hassle of the machines.

Apologies. I thought you were asking about paid benefits, but on rereading your question I see you are asking about premium payments that are in excess of the income cap.

Let me inquire on that & I will come back if I can get good guidance from HR.

Gorgeous!

Michigan has the highest deposit rates in the county. SE Michigan is also covered in litter. Those two things have zero correlation.

I'm a lot more likely to recycle if I don't have to do all that. They can keep the 50 cents if they take em from curbside regularly.

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Hi guys, current Oregonian here. You don’t want this.

Pay extra for cans. Get it back when you recycle. Seems easy but we have to store our cans separate inside so our cans don’t get pillaged before we can take them.

Also the bottle drop location system is terrible - the few bottle drops by us “limit” the amount we can return per quarter which is annoying. The other drop locations can be overrun and feel pretty unsafe.

Fairly confident I read that this industry makes money charging us extra up front and then redeeming the cans people don’t bother to redeem themselves. Oregon can be a lot of great things and a lot of terrible things. This one falls into the latter.

Thanks. Used to live in Marysville where they had like 3 nearby branches. Now I'm 70 miles away and really didn't care about opening a new account.

I checked and there's a WSECU in Centralia/Chehalis. Much closer. Looks like the credit unions here aren't partnered with BECU which is a thing I read. I can still use them for anything without fees but no deposit.

You've openly stated you've never returned cans/bottles, so you're not really qualified to opine on the subject matter as it pertains to the practicality of the experience.

Currently, my household gets its groceries delivered, so can return for me is a special, often dedicated trip. It is (roughly) a 15-mile round trip to do so, so $2.75 in gas.

We do grocery delivery now partly due to can/bottle return. Do you know how quickly you want the whole system burned to the ground when you load up the cans when you go to pick up groceries to find out the kiosk is broken/closed? Now it's an hour long, 45 mile ordeal, thst costs $6.00 in gas because you've go to go to another store.

How about the cart? You want to do your grocery shopping in a cart someone (me) just used to haul 6 bags of cans/bottles in?

Then, there is the system itself. Every store is required to take any can back (think QFC had to take Safeway Select cans back, even though they don't sell them). Only QFC doesn't regularly download updated lists from the state or willfully excludes other brands' cans. They will still technically take them, but you have to go to the service desk and wait in line and do that whole song and dance. No thank you.

Safety.
I'm a 250lb bearded dude that knows the rules for avoiding getting into shit. I was nearly stabbed returning cans once by someone, unfortunately, having a mental crisis. It takes a tremendous amount of privlage to avoid this for many people.

Those are just a few of the madningly frustrating aspects. Curbside pickup is an exceptional value for dollar at $9.17/month. Especially since you'll likely still be paying most of that for paper/plastic/no-deposit curbside pick up.

Edit to add last scentence.

Society is so lame now. Just institutions, corporations, and government agencies dissing each other on twitter. Yuck.

One of the many good things about credit unions is that you can use the ATM's of other credit unions as well, with no fees, and that includes deposits.

I opened my BECU account years ago because they conveniently had a branch at the Safeway a mile down the road. Sadly that branch closed a month or two later, and I don't spend a lot of time out in the Hawks Prairie area where the closest physical branch remains. So if I ever need to make a deposit, I just go to another nearby credit union (WSECU) and use their ATM. Never had any sort of issues doing so.

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Try the views from Dear Park. Fucking spectator! Last time I was up there I saw the sun setting over the Strait to the west and a comet over head.

That is a good point, but the math still works out that it would be cheaper to pay a 5-10 cent deposit, and return the containers than the current system where I pay 9 bucks a month for pickup. $9.17 would get me 92 to 183 containers per month if I didn't return them. That is far more than I currently use, and if I did return the containers I would be compensated for the deposit.

because it's reddit.

This is so different looking from your usual style, yet I still knew who it was:) Love it!

>Or even better, wait in line and get paid for my containers.

You aren't getting paid. You're returning a good and getting a DEPOSIT back. So that means every bottle and can suddenly becomes $.05-$.10 more to buy.

Beautiful painting. Do you sketch this out first, or just go for it?

Moved from WA to MI, and the bottle/can deposit is all kinds of bullshit wrapped into one inconvenient outdated model.

From machine infrastructure at grocers (always a couple broken, and the grocer has to dedicate square footage to something that they can't profit off of), the emissions and cost (time and fuel) from consumers, and the filth (can return kiosks are gross no matter what).

Oregon can get bent (on this and the gas pumping issue).

Otegon is getting tired of paying deposits on Washington's cans and bottles.

They need to fix this problem without fking over Washingtonians, and it's a fairly safe bet that this shit won't fly.

Curbside, we recycle without having to pay extra for the can and then get the money back when we return it. I recycle as much as ever.

You were the one complaining about the can return, I was just suggesting an alternative option.

The current rate for recycling pickup in my area is $9.17 a month, so if I could just drop it off locally for free, I'd be saving money. Or even better, wait in line and get paid for my containers.

I can't help you with the tip suggestion because I've never used door dash, however if money is tight, may I suggest bringing your own lunch. I've used https://www.budgetbytes.com/category/extra-bytes/budget-friendly-meal-prep/ to get recipes, or I just make a sandwich, and it has saved me a ton of money over the past few years.