>That is the 2nd time you have made assumptions , and it bit you. Maybe stop doing that?

Listen, I tried to be polite and learn more about the Oregon system in particular because that is what this article is proposing to expand to Washington. I've recycled in many different areas, but i was curious about the particulars of their systme. But it seems like I know more about that system than you, and since you've been condescending as fuck the whole time, and since you don't even live in Washington anymore, you can fuck off.

It is not as much of an issue in Oregon though, that is my point.https://resource-recycling.com/plastics/2020/08/12/oregon-deposit-return-rate-increased-in-2019/amp/

I didn't write it, I think it was Willard Espy.

We have curbside in Kennewick. I just don't often use it because the wind blows the cans down the street. So I save them in the house and periodically drop them off at the bins over in Richland.

No thanks, I dont want someone from Oregon trying to push oregon ideas on Washington. Theres a reason why I dont live in oregon

If it was the way it used to be it would be great... we took our glass pop bottles back to the grocery store where we bought them. The grocery checker gave us the cash back.

Guess your gas is free and time has no value.

>Then why are you commenting about the Oregon bottle dropoff?

Because this is a Washington sub, and I lived there for near to 4 decades and still have an interest in the area (in real property and in practicality as I'm there regularly) Furthermore, I've returned cans in Oregon, and the system is functionally the same as what I have to deal with hith in Michigan. This is also a discussion of a post about a bill being lobbied for in Washington, so not even spefic to Oregon.

>That is misleading as fuck. You are talking about a completely different system there.

That's your impression, so I'm not going to shit on it. But, they are the exact same equipment (I have spent a ton of time in the Columbia River Gorge area and have dealt with can return in rural areas and in Portland.

That is the 2nd time you have made assumptions , and it bit you. Maybe stop doing that?

>In many parts of Oregon, they don't, though.

So, no curbside recycle pickup at all? Paper is just tossed? Non-depoait glass/aluminum/plastic too? Sounds like 1981, I'd advise passing on that regression.

>Plus, they have less material that needs to be picked up.

Less isn't zero.

You never addressed a ton of the problems I presented (closed kiosks with a car full of cans/bottles, safety, time and money costs, dirty carts), all of which exist regardless of geography. You came into this saying you didn't know, amd were just asking questions (though it would appear you live in the Vancouver, WA area based on post history, so it stands to reason you're more experienced than you're letting on).

Just be transparent. You are a cheap ass who wants their $9.17 a month back, damn the consequences.

Anyway, good chat. It was nice to engage in some rhetoric.

I'm out.

You can deposit cash through the ATM at BECU

This isn't really a "washington thing" though. Anywhere that has recycling will have this issue

Different programs, Care is not PFML. WA PFML helpline: (833) 717-2273

>I live in Detroit.

Then why are you commenting about the Oregon bottle dropoff? That is misleading as fuck. You are talking about a completely different system there.

>More than once, I've gone to the store, and the kiosk isn't open. Now you need groceries and you've got a car full of trash.

In Oregon, you can just drop it off in a blue bag if you dont want to wait for a kiosk https://bottledrop.com/locations/?question=7977&ans=7980&text=Gresham&latLng_lng=-122.4356657&latLng_lat=45.5044715

>Seriously, take the L and trust a primary source.

How are you a primary source if you don't even live in Oregon?

> have that here and pay for it

In many parts of Oregon, they don't, though. Plus, they have less material that needs to be picked up.

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Sounds like the Department of Licensing but with Angry Insects and additional stupid rules.

>I live in an urban area, not rural like yourself

I live in Detroit.

>I could just drop off my containers when I went to the store, right?

More than once, I've gone to the store, and the kiosk isn't open. Now you need groceries and you've got a car full of trash.

I've addressed all of your impressions, and they are just not the what winds up playing out. Seriously, take the L and trust a primary source.

>I'd still be spending less than the $9.17 a month.

This is a red herring. What about the recycle bin for paper and such? I have that here and pay for it, but I still have to hassle with can deposits. I could not return them and forgo my deposit because of the hassle, which is completely incongruent with the intent that it will increase recycling.

Seriously, take the L.

>No evidence it wouldn't be worse with the proposed law. There is clear evidence Oregon does a better job than Washington at recycling https://productstewardship.net/news/recovery-and-recycling-rates-oregon-and-washington

https://www.columbian.com/news/2018/oct/07/comparing-washington-oregon-oversight-on-recycling/

>There would also be huge backlash adding further to grocery costs yo already high inflation as well free time.

Yeah, im sure there would be backlash, because people always seem to resist change. However, if you factor in the cost of processing fees and pickup costs, most people would actually be saving money with the deposit system.

It is $9.17 a month for recycling pickup in my area. With Oregons system, I'd pay an extra 10 cents per container, but I'd get that money back when I returned them. So I'd be saving $9.17 a month.

In the meantime the state website says this:

If you overpay your premiums, you will see a credit balance on your account. You can use this amount to pay future premiums. If the amount is over $50, you can request a refund by contacting the Customer Care Team at paidleave@esd.wa.gov or (833) 717-2273.

Have you signed into your account to see if the credit is there?

The Peninsula is so damn beautiful. Wife & I love going to Crescent Lake for outings when we lived on the west side. One of our favorite destinations but live on the east side now.

Beautiful!! You can really get the sense of rushing water.

Can you deposit at the teller? That's what I have to do.

I bank with WSECU and there's no branch in my town but they have 2 other credit unions in town that are part of the Shared Branch so I use those.

That too.

You pay extra upfront. Must be nice to be able to afford a higher grocery bill.

No evidence it wouldn't be worse with the proposed law. Tons of people would pitch cans rather than deal with the returns. There would also be huge backlash adding further to grocery costs yo already high inflation as well free time. It would be a huge mistake.