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yungcarwashy OP t1_j8lracn wrote

What’s interesting is when that whole project was going on I never once read a news article about the sea wall, yet I heard dozens of stories about the viaduct… I was in early college and it makes me wonder if people only cared because it related to our automobile-centric infrastructure.

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yungcarwashy OP t1_j8lqx7b wrote

My apologies, Türkiye/Syria. Is there a name for this region that is more appropriate?

My coworker was arguing that those stone buildings have stood the test of time based on composition and appearance. My belief is that they could very well just be old architecture methods practiced in recent years with inferior materials.

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VGSchadenfreude t1_j8lofip wrote

Probably. We’re surrounded by fault lines and massive volcanoes, so we’ve always known that a disastrous quake or eruption is not an “if.”

It’s a “when.”

And that allows us to plan ahead and continuously improve our infrastructure.

That’s why, for example, despite the years of bickering over how to replace the Viaduct, the city still made sure to at least repair the Elliott Bay Sea Wall. That project was part of the same infrastructure package, but while the Viaduct replacement got bogged down, the Sea Wall forced ahead because that was the more important of the two.

We could live without the Viaduct if we had to.

But the Elliott Bay Sea Wall is the main thing stopping half of downtown Seattle from liquifying and sliding right into Puget Sound during the next quake.

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rourobouros t1_j8lo8w4 wrote

What PhuckSJWs said, and to amplify on the Turkiye/Syria (don't forget them) situation, the standard construction there appears to be unreinforced masonry (brick & stone). I think the places with the most casualties are smallervillages, not places with urban buildings of reinforced concrete. I suspect that those contractors being brought up on charges are responsible for a small percentage of the deaths and injuries.

But I could be wrong, we will learn more with time.

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Rocketgirl8097 t1_j8lla8w wrote

Thats a pretty good price. What I'm going to end up paying with the payroll deduction is something like $65 a month. Because I make a little more, I pay more. Which I think is bs because the health care I would receive doesn't cost any more for me than someone that pays less than me. That's another flaw in this plan. It should be a flat rate. Also I'll never see it because I'll retire before its funded and they still haven't fixed that.

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PhuckSJWs t1_j8lieiu wrote

  1. Nisqually quake was deep (35 miles) and relatively "far away" from dense population centers.

  2. Seattle and Tacoma both have a lot of loose soils on top from when the cities were created (in Seattle's case when the hills were flattened), which luckily helped cushion the blow

  3. Even though many buildings were not earthquake ready, it is fair to say the majority here were likely more earthquake ready than most in Turkey

  4. Even for only being 20 years ago, we now have about an extra million in the metro area that were not here in 2001.

  5. Some luck

  6. Our big quake that we are overdue for will hit eventually. The Seattle fault is the one that will fuck us up if/wen it slips.

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happytoparty t1_j8l7vf0 wrote

Technically true, however when you went to sign up for the exception you only needed to “affirm that you could provide proof” to receive the exception. I know a lot of people who did that and have that exception from the state of WA.

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