Back to my original question - have you or your wife been personally hassled in Ellensburg. I am not denying that there is undoubtedly been issues here - but I think that telling people to avoid coming into to a town to get Ice Cream from a local shop because you/your wife had bad experiences in a totally different community and thus you assume that all small towns are inherently threatening is not that different from the logic of someone who says I once worked with (a black, a woman, a jew, a hispanic) and they didn't do a good job so I don't want to work with (blacks, women, jews, hispanics).

I know. I used to work retail as well. Anytime I suspected anyone being drunk, underage, or anything that could potentially get myself or the store in trouble I immediately denied sale. A few times I had to have a manager come and back me up because the customer got a little rowdy. One of my favorites was a guy came in at like 1:30AM went to the beer aisle and bought a six pack, I saw him walk in, heard him talking to himself. A couple of things that tipped me off that he was probably drunk was: how he was walking, and while talking to himself he slurred a few words. I immediately denied sale when he got to the register. I called the night manager over and he backed me up on it, and we both agreed we could even smell alcohol from him.

I used to work for a local drug store chain before it was bought by Rite Aid. One thing that got you fired immediately from a store was a violation of tobacco or liquor laws. The reason for this were regular sting operations by the LCB (minors trying to buy), paired with stiff repercussions.

Good job everyone.

If they forget to ask, just make a show of it for the camera.
I know the clerks always appreciate it.

As an 18yr old, one of my first jobs, I was working a stocking position at a local grocery store when I went up to help register once during a busy rush. A bearded teenager who looked mid 20's came in to buy cigarettes. 15 minutes later he returned w/ the vice cop who sent him, and I was let go. Was just trying to pay my bills and got sloppy in a busy rush, I know it's my fault, but it was so frustrating and demoralizing at that age.

I'm on the ONP, lots of retirees come here thinking Sequim is like the desert southwest. Thick forest is really hard to clear!

Well said. But, those bad apples are the ones that are aggressive to people of color, the whites in the community may rarely see it, because they are not the target. I (w m) Lived in a small town with my wife of Latino descent, the white friends we made there were appalled and surprised to hear of the bigoted things experienced by my wife. To list them in detail would take much time.

Look into the costs of the city/county permits for building as well as impact fees, retention ponds, and inspections

> I’m not sure why you think Americans are supposed to be good people, ...

Because we don't fish with gill nets?

Prejudice is horrible. I totally agree that we have some nasty bigots in our town (as you will find anywhere) and that there is probably more prejudice here than in a more multi-racial community on the westside, but less than in more conservative communities to the east. I also recognize as a community that is mostly white and hispanic, POC may not feel as comfortable as we would like. We have had incidents, such as Nazi pamphlets, but when that has happened we have had community wide movements to push back and assert that those pamphlets are not who we are. Prejudice can take many forms - and, just like it is always wrong to assume negative traits for everyone that is part of a particular gender, race or religion, it is also wrong to condemn everyone in a community because of some bad apples.

That’s not really “below board”. It’s not against the law to take a card for a weed transaction, the problem is that all the banks that issue credit cards are federally insured and refuse to service pot shops because it’s still illegal federally.

Correct! After spotting the rabbit, began looking for the fox.

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Damn it’s almost like we held a war over this and the Americans won. I’m not sure why you think Americans are supposed to be good people, it’s incredibly surprising they didn’t put natives in slave labor camps.

I’m near a dispensary that will take credit/debit cards (in a sense), which is the only time I’ve ever seen a dispensary do anything remotely “below board”. They treat the transaction as an ATM withdrawal first, so only multiples of $20. For instance, if the total cost was $50, they would charge your card $60 and give you $10 back.

The ones in my area have an actual "staging area" to check IDs, and they're very fucking strict on that. You can't actually be near the merchandise until you show ID and there's a glass pane keeping you in that staging area until they see that ID.

I'm 49 and still get carded, my 80 year old neighbor gets carded. Neither of us mind, we just talk about random shit a lot when smoking outside.

If you have any type of craftsman skills, you can do a fairly inexpensive "remodel" if you find an older house or crappy your house that doesn't have a ton of problems. After My experience last summer we just started updating our 1965 modular home. New floors, New kitchen cabinets, paint, trim, for about $2500. It's definitely not ideal, but when you purchase all you're doing is building equity for the future.

This happened throughout the U.S. and Canada well into the 80s. Just Google "American Indian boarding schools" or " residential schools". It's not hard to find.

I think we call this "good news" right?

Keep in mind that it is much harder to get financing for raw land than it is for an existing residence.

Wow, how can you not see how this is a problem? Also, having the wrong month can cause you to lose your car. I had mine towed because of this issue. My COA has strict rules about parking since we don't have enough places, and the rules require current tabs. They do not have the ability to look up registration info like you so wrongfully claim is "the solution." I'm terrified that after the end of the month that I might get towed again since we have a new property manager. The old one understood the issue.

Saying this state us run by incompetent and lazy morons isn't attacking the police. It seems a bit opposite.

Thurston County used to have a "typical land development costs" on the building department website. This was 5 or maybe longer years ago, and it was then about $60k or more.

Cost does not equal value. It is not unusual for an owner built residential property to exceed market value. You are doing one project.

Don't forget to watch for pocket gophers.

You might find it easier to buy a parcel with an old MH have that removed and build new.

The whole history of European colonization of North America is filled with inhumanity, no argument there. Could you post some links to sources for this event?

Call a local septic installer and ask them what the typical range is for a 4 bedroom house. Mine in King county is about $31k with design/install.

Call a local we’ll driller and ask them the typical cost for a well in the area of the property you’re looking at. Mine is about $30k with a nice pump house and water system.

If it’s PSE and they don’t currently serve your property and they have to run a “line extension” that’s on them but the transformer and running to your meter is on you.

I know grays harbor county allowed owner installed septic systems in the past.

That’s for sure. I’m and Intern Architect in BC and so many clients don’t research the feasibility before buying their plot.

Clearing said land is gnarly