When it becomes an issue and affects your work.

Still a felony to grow a single plant of your own

Alcohol and marijuana are substances that can influence an individual's ability to process information and think.

An employer who operates in a field where it is important to always be in full control, might not want someone who uses these substances.

I'm not sure what about that is awful of me to think.

If you want to do those things, cool. Don't tell your employer about it and keep it to after work / weekends.

I know way too many people who work buzzed or high and it's kinda terrifying based on what they do.

>In my experiences

I thought we just established that "your experience" is... not at all representative of the real world. (And that you don't seem to be aware of this.)

In my experiences, people say that it's not addictive and then can't go more than a couple of days without it.

I wouldn't want, say a crane operator, under any kind of influence. Sounds dangerous.

Unfortunately I can't use logic to dissuade you from a position that you didn't get to logically in the first place.

>I don't think I worded it right.

<facepalm> No, the problem isn't how you worded it. The problem is you really don't know much about the world beyond your bubble... let alone how different your bubble is from the rest of the world.

Any form of impairment can negatively affect a job. Depending on the job, it could be more or less severe.

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I have and it's awful. One of my best friends is and he needs serious help.

Didn't say that at all. Just think that the employer might want to know is all.

Same. If it won't affect anything then your employer shouldn't care.

Alcohol can be pretty obvious though.

I don't think I worded it right.

People that I know generally drink alcohol during special occasions or like when they go out to eat or something. You know?

People that I know that use marijuana treat it more like a cigarette, where they need one every hour or so.

When I tried because my apartment towed my car after they thought the tabs were expired but not, the DOL said they get the plates with stickers already on them and never get the month stickers separately. That's why sometimes near the end of the month you can't get a plate because they run out of them with the current month's sticker. I'm still fighting to get that fixed because at the end of the month, it will again look like my tabs are expired even though I have more than six months to go before they actually expire.

It shouldn't be normalized.

I'm in my late 20s. Isn't Medicare (not Medicaid) only for older people? Either way, healthcare sucks and is overpriced and I feel seriously ripped off. Do you think my credit card company would do anything if I ask them to reverse the extra payments for services not rendered? Or CFPB? It worked before for other medical payments.

Is there any chance I can get a refund of the insurance premium too if I cancelled? Should I file a BBB/CFPB claim against Aetna my insurance provider?

>In my experience, those other drugs aren't used as frequently or in the same way as this one.

Wait, what? What planet are you from where alcohol isn't used as frequently or in the same way as cannabis?

Just wait till you are on Medicare. No coverage for physicals, & even though it took them months to properly get me covered, they backdated billing for three months so I owe them $600, for nothing.

if your job doesn’t have any major liabilities i don’t see why it’s an issue. and if there was a way to test people on the spot like alcohol it would make an even stronger case for employers to mind their business about workers’ personal lives.

I had scoliosis and rounded shoulders with severe upper neck and back pain and several doctors including ones abroad at the time recommended me to go see a chiropractor, acupuncturist, or physical therapist. In hindsight I should not have listened to the advice of my doctor, but I do feel much better now that it doesn't bother me every day. My insurance "covered" chiorpractor adjustments but I was misled on the extent of the coverage, causing me to pay way more than if I just not had insurance and paid cash. But because I wanted to contribute to an HSA at the time with employer contributions, I decided the tax benefits was worth it.

I don't know about chiropractors, but for real doctors and hospitals, that was one of Hillary Clinton's poison pills in HIPAA. You can't offer a cash discount lower than what any insurance company would be billed. She didn't want us to be able to negotiate lower prices. ObamaCare negotiated an incentive for higher bills so there's now even more reason those are enforced because they cost insurance companies allowed profit if you pay with cash rather than use insurance.

Right, I will contact Aetna and see what my options are if this is intentional and fraud

For each visit, three types of services were billed to the insurance, adding up to $90-$100, whereas cash was $60. The service was the same. Because I had a HDHP, I didn't meet the deductible. Therefore if the insurance didn't cover much, I would suspect I can take them to court to charge me the cash rate.

So anyone who does any recreational drug on their own time, from alcohol to marijuana should not be allowed to work?

No one is saying there are gonna be surgeons stoned hot boxing the O.R. Though don't look into how many surgeons are alcoholics by statistic, you will never go under the scalpel again...

Tobacco has become common with employer provided health care. I have had to take a test in order to not pay $50 a month tobacco fee. I could see that happening with alcohol some day once our society accepts it’s worse for us than pretty much everything else people worry about.