Your house has too many holes?

“If we do one reasonable thing it will lead to mass control by government”

Chill the fuck out

The sun.

That's...actually really quite bad. Good ones will handle subzero temps.

Only if they're completely fucking stupid. Hmm, yes, let's install a furnace and AC for more than it would cost to install a heat pump that can be both. Excellent idea.

My 4 ton heat pump will heat my house at close to 38° amazing

Sure, and that was something that was a sticking point decades ago. Modern heat pumps work fine in conditions commonly found in WA, and that's before even looking at the geothermally sunk ones. It is a complete non-issue for them.

Literally the only downside to a good heat pump install is the up-front cost, and since it's new construction and there are big credits right now anyway, that's a no-brainer.

Our PUD gave us an $800 credit for retrofitting with heat pumps.

> how about we focus on building industrial scale solar in eastern WA first before pointless mandates

Heat pumps are so absurdly efficient that this is still a step in the right direction. A good heat pump install can move 3-4x the heat per watt that a resistance-based heater will make, and there are parts of WA where the climate is damn near ideal for them.

We can do two things at once, and since this is a mandate that doesn't actually require that the state do much, it makes perfect fucking sense to do it while prioritizing other initiatives as well.

What science are you talking about that's "been ignored"?

I would be surprised if it was possible to permit a new house that didn't include a heating system.

haha well played

Yeah, I’ve been stuck in that before. I gotta say though, I use the WSDOT cameras religiously in the wintertime. It just gets too crazy not to.

Ooooh that'll be exciting and a boom for Elma

Yeah, it would be embarrassing losing to a newbie. Easier to make an ad hominem attack

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There are plans for a nuclear plant to come online at Hanford in the next decadd

Not going to argue with an 18-day old account.

Hello from Westport! Looking forward to the king tides.

Your local utility may have incentives available. Clark Public Utilities, for example, offers rebates and lower interest loans than what many people might otherwise be able to get.

So, for us with existing homes and would like a heat pump for both heating and air conditioning, what is there to help us? These systems can cost over $10k. Not within many a budget.

I know EXACTLY what a libertarian is, and the difference between right libertarianism and left libertarianism.

Right Libertarianism is a naive and impossible system that immediately decays into oligarchism. It's also one that naive, childish morons who are extremely impressed by their own delusions of intelligence buy into wholesale.

Stop leaching off the rest of society while deluding yourself into thinking you're some rugged individual, an island unto yourself

Nope, you're just naive and full of yourself enough to believe otherwise

I don't know if it's required but 95%+ of heat pumps that heat also cool. An A/C is a form of heat pump, what we know here as heat pumps are generally reversable so you can use it for heating and cooling.

Yeah, this is a straight up lie.