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LetsGoHome t1_j9kxay8 wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
Hm yes, but trans people have a risk of being murdered, harassed, and more. She wants to prevent that. I get that you don't see gender or w/e but many. Many. People do. And society is still not super safe for trans folks.
Wendon t1_j9kx8vn wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
You are not communicating like someone who wants to understand, you are communicating like someone who wants to fight about something. If you are being genuine you should maybe think about why you are being so combative about it. If I showed up to a salon and asked my stylist to help me look more feminine and they responded like you, "what do you mean feminine, you don't think women can have short or buzzed hair" I would leave and go to a different stylist. I cannot believe you are acting in good faith.
Wendon t1_j9kwv6e wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
Yes it literally does? If I show up and tell the stylist "I want to present more feminine can you help my hair communicate that" it absolutely does matter. You're a bully, you cannot possibly be acting in good faith, no one is this dense.
Wendon t1_j9kwp3d wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
You are literally arguing with everyone on this post about it so maybe you should look in the mirror here and do some reflection as to why your gut instinct when a trans person is asking for stylist recs why you feel the need to turn it into a political discussion
dupattaluella t1_j9kwjdd wrote
Reply to comment by Wendon in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
I'm trying to understand this but all I'm getting is "hair is gendered" when it's not. Any stylist who cares how someone wants to cut their hair and will judge a person for it isn't a good person. Doesn't matter what the customer's gender is.
dupattaluella t1_j9kwc4i wrote
Reply to comment by Wendon in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
>You are overcomplicating this.
I think the inverse is actually true.
>It matters to them that they are presenting as the gender they are, in a way that makes them feel comfortable in their bodies.
And that doesn't change how a hairstylist cuts their hair. If a hairstylist is going to judge anyone (no matter their gender) on what they do with their hair, they're not a good stylist or person.
Wendon t1_j9kw17j wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
Ok dude, but it obviously matters to the person who made this post, so why are you going out of your way to fight about it? I don't care if it matters to you. I'm not trying to refer you to a stylist. Good for you.
dupattaluella t1_j9kvw3p wrote
Reply to comment by haunted_waffles in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
I think people put too much thought and time into this. With all the variety in hairstyles across all genders nowadays, I don't think you can say hair is gendered anymore.
dupattaluella t1_j9kvqv7 wrote
Reply to comment by Wendon in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
>Hair is tremendously gendered.
Maybe to you, but not everyone sees hair as a gendered thing. I see men and women with a variety of cuts, styles, and colors. I have no idea if they're trying to present a certain way or not because of all the variety. I know men who identify as men and have long curly hair. I know women who identify as women who have short spiked hair. My female cousin even had a fauxhawk for a while. If I think someone has nice or cool hair, I tell them. I don't wonder how they're trying to present since there's so much variety nowadays.
Wendon t1_j9kvmy6 wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
You are overcomplicating this. Against my better judgement I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are being earnest- it doesn't matter what you think when you look at someone, if you think they are male or female or trans. It doesn't matter that some men have 3' long hair and some women have buzzed heads. It matters to them that they are presenting as the gender they are, in a way that makes them feel comfortable in their bodies. This is a really 101-level way for a trans person to improve their dysphoria, I urge you to do some research on gender dysphoria if you are genuinely interested in the topic.
dupattaluella t1_j9kuo7n wrote
Reply to comment by LetsGoHome in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
No, it doesn't make sense. I see men with stereotypical female hair all the time. I don't ever wonder their gender as I don't care. I see both men and women with varieties of hairstyles and colors. Being afraid of what someone will think of your hairstyle preference doesn't seem like an inherently trans issue to me. It seems like an issue that stems from someone being afraid of what others think of them as a whole, which happens to many people, no matter their gender or orientation.
haunted_waffles t1_j9kumu2 wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
It’s mostly because certain styles of haircut are categorized as “for men” or “for women.” For example, a trans man who hasn’t medically transitioned might go to a salon for a men’s short haircut, but leave with a pixie cut because their stylist either (1) assumed that’s what they wanted because they perceive the client as a woman or (2) are actively transphobic and gave them a feminine haircut on purpose to make them conform to their assigned gender (or to just be mean). Also, it is not fun to have someone who is hostile (transphobic) towards you cut your hair in general.
dupattaluella t1_j9ku8ww wrote
Reply to comment by Wendon in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
I guess I just don't understand how a haircut and styling hair had anything to with gender. I see men and women with long hair and short hair, dyed hair, buzzed heads, etc. I don't look at their styles as indicative of their gender in any way.
Wendon t1_j9ku5w5 wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
Yeah it does, if a male presenting person is asking for help presenting more female or vice versa it will obviously come up, don't be dense. Hair is tremendously gendered.
LetsGoHome t1_j9kt6tb wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
Well this person isn't telling them anything about their sexuality. They're telling them they're trans. They're two very different things. She said in her post that she hasn't transitioned yet - so she is currently presenting as a man. She wants a hair stylist that she can tell she is a woman and not get transphobic hate for it. So basically, currently appears as a man, wants to talk women haircuts safely. Does that make more sense?
dupattaluella t1_j9ksqpa wrote
Reply to comment by LetsGoHome in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
I don't even understand why you have to tell a hairstylist if you're trans, lesbian, gay, nonbinary, straight, etc. It makes no sense and doesn't change the fact of how to cut someone's hair.
Wendon t1_j9ks8r9 wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
They probably are a new trans who hasn't figured out how to style as their gender yet, and are trying to get referred to someone who can help them who isn't transphobic.
dookie5 t1_j9kqep6 wrote
Reply to comment by Brighteyed77 in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
I second this. Nicole who works there will take good care of anyone!
OrphanKripler t1_j9kq39i wrote
Reply to 5 and Diner by 508wortown
We have enough with Popeyes on park Ave, Chick-fil-A, and KFC. How about a Sonics or Shake Shack or In-N-out, if we are gonna get shitty fast food chains. At least get the decently good ones
weasel999 t1_j9koofr wrote
Reply to comment by your_city_councilor in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
I think that is Fleet Street Barber and they do all kinds of hair and are very nice allies.
LetsGoHome t1_j9koc13 wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
They likely just don't want to risk being subjected to transphobic abuse.
dupattaluella t1_j9knqo6 wrote
Reply to Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
Not trying to be insensitive or anything, but what's different for trans people than non trans people when it comes to haircuts? I would think you'd want someone who knows your hair more than someone who knows your orientation.
Edit: After some of the replies, I feel bad for what trans people go through. Some of the people who've replied make it obvious they assume gender off hairstyle. My female cousin, who identified as female, used to have super short hair. I hope she didn't have to go through assumptions of being male just because of her choice of hairstyle. And I hope hairstylists aren't being assumptive aholes either. People should be able to have whatever haircut they want and not have to state their gender in the process.
dupattaluella t1_j9knjb8 wrote
Reply to comment by Wendon in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
I see Nikki too! I love how well she listens to what you want and will make reccomendations as needed. I completely trust her with my hair.
Girlbarber__ t1_j9kmzfb wrote
Reply to Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
https://instagram.com/thewildhair_stylist?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
The Wild Hairstylist aka Kelsey Bailey. She works at Mane Studio right in the canal district of Worcester. She is part of the LGBTQI+ community and is very inclusive! A ray of sunshine honestly. Does a lot of curly hair as well. Check out her profile to see if her style fits what you’re looking for
haunted_waffles t1_j9kxdoh wrote
Reply to comment by dupattaluella in Trans Girl looking for a hairstylist who is knowledgeable about working with Trans people by Jade_of_the_Sea36
Anyone can have any hairstyle for sure. But hair styles are a part of how people express their genders. And when you are talking about different hairstyles in the context of going to a salon, different styles are currently considered more feminine or masculine. And unfortunately there are stylists who simply won’t give people they perceive as men “women’s” haircuts and vice versa. So, for trans people to actually get the styles they want when they visit the salon, they need to make sure the stylist will actually be willing to give them those hairstyles. It would be nice if this wasn’t a problem trans people face, but right now it is.