I don't understand how this explains why you assume I'm cisgendered.

No, I don't want a wolf cut. But, if I did, I'd go to my hairstylist and ask if she knows how to do that style since I already trust her with my hair. If not, I'd ask her for recommendations before searching on my own.

You, and others, are saying hairstyles are gendered. You've even stated some hairstyles are feminine. That means you identify someone's gender by their hairstyle. I'm not the one who sees gender in hairstyles.

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I just feel bad OP's post got hijacked by this asshole but yeah, hopefully it is a productive read for anyone approaching in good faith.

At least someone else reading can have a valuable takeaway.

Japan is divided into 47 prefectures (都道府県, todōfuken, [todoːɸɯ̥ꜜkeɴ]), which rank immediately below the national government and form the country's first level of jurisdiction and administrative division. They include 43 prefectures proper (県, ken), two urban prefectures (府, fu: Osaka and Kyoto), one "circuit" or "territory" (道, dō: Hokkai-dō) and one metropolis (都, to: Tokyo). In 1868, the Meiji Fuhanken sanchisei administration created the first prefectures (urban fu and rural ken) to replace the urban and rural administrators (bugyō, daikan, etc.) in the parts of the country previously controlled directly by the shogunate and a few territories of rebels/shogunate loyalists who had not submitted to the new government such as Aizu/Wakamatsu. In 1871, all remaining feudal domains (han) were also transformed into prefectures, so that prefectures subdivided the whole country. In several waves of territorial consolidation, today's 47 prefectures were formed by the turn of the century. In many instances, these are contiguous with the ancient ritsuryō provinces of Japan.[1]

So you're gonna walk up to a men's barbershop and ask for a wolf cut?

Don't engage, this person is deliberately trolling. They got me too.

Literally not a single person on this thread said that. You are being deliberately obtuse. You know for an absolute fact that you are being a debate bro about this. OP asked a simple question and you turned it into a debate, I hope I never meet someone like you IRL. Cannot imagine deliberately being a dickhead on purpose to someone looking for help, I'm just not built like that.

Why do you assume I'm cisgender? That's quite rude and presumptive of you. Are you someone who assumes gender based on hairstyle too?

Yes, you don't need to discuss your gender identity with your hair stylist. This is because you are cisgender - your gender presentation matches your identity. They do not have this luxury.

Nope. It's crazy to me how many people, like yourself, assume someone's gender on their hairstyle.

I'm sure Popeye's will be a traffic burden already, I can't imagine what a Sonic or In-N-Out would look like in that spot.

I'm gonna drop out of this now because I know with 100% certainty that you are being deliberately combative about this, and know what you are doing. The reason OP is asking for a trans-friendly hair stylist is because they don't want to get a haircut from someone like you.

Maybe I know different people than you. Everyone I know doesn't see gender based on hair. That's very sexist imo. It's like making a judgement of how someone will behave based on their hairstyle, what their voice will sound like, what genitalia they have, etc. It's not right.

No. I don't. If I said only women have long hair, isn't that kind of sexist? If I said only men have short hair, isn't that also kind of sexist. This idea that hair is gendered is a sexist idea to me. Anyone can have any hairstyle and if someone sees gender based on hair, they're the one with the problem.

>So, for trans people to actually get the styles they want when they visit the salon, they need to make sure the stylist will actually be willing to give them those hairstyles.

Maybe I've just never encountered this, but I don't know any hairstylist who won't take your money and give you the hairstyle you want. They may ask if you're sure you want to take 10 inches off or go from black to blonde hair, but that's usually because it's such a drastic change and they want to be sure before they start messing with your hair. Most hairstylists will gladly give you what you want in exchange for you giving them money.

I can understand there are some people who look down on trans people, but I don't understand why a hairstylist even needs to know your gender identity. I don't discuss my gender identity with my stylist and she's never asked. I tell her how I want my hair to look. I've had many hairstyles, even super short, throughout my life and never once discussed my gender. This is what I don't get.

No one seems to be able to explain this. It keeps going back to people being transphobic over hairstyles when hairstyles come in all varieties no matter the gender. And people keep talking about presenting feminine or masculine when all genders have a variety of hairstyles and they crossover between genders. To me, this is akin to thinking only females can have long hair and only males can have short hair. If all you see is gender identity when you look at someone's hairstyle, I think that's a problem.

If one person in a room doesn't think hair is gendered and literally everyone else in the room thinks it is, how are you concluding that hair isn't gendered

You know very well what constitutes feminine hair you're just starting a fight.

What is feminine hair though? This is what I'm trying to get across. I see people who look masculine and people who look feminine with long hair, short hair, buzzed hair, bald, curly hair, straight hair, wavy hair, etc. Trying to present masculine or feminine is literally different to everyone.

What is feminine hair though? This is what I'm trying to get across. I see people who look masculine and people who look feminine with long hair, short hair, buzzed hair, bald, curly hair, straight hair, wavy hair, etc. Trying to present masculine or feminine is literally different to everyone.

I'm saying I don't believe hair is gendered and don't understand why this is a big issue. I keep getting met with reiterating that hair is gendered. It's not a good explanation. And how is this political when I'm saying I see a variety of haircuts on people nowadays? That's not political, that's an observation.