I don't know if it had African slaves but apparently at the time when the area was called "Quinsigamond plantation", settlers were in the habit of enslaving natives...so, basically, yes.

"Between the war’s outbreak in June 1675 and its end in August 1676, up to forty percent of New England’s indigenous population had been killed, died in captivity, or sold into slavery."

By the way - did anyone in this thread defending the name "Plantation St" know literally anything about Quinsigamond Plantation before today?

Did Quinsigamond Plantation have slaves?

Redemption is a great tip; bonus points for having a lovely space to hang in, and, beer.

>I'm offended by the idea that the medical school has nothing better to do than to pontificate about street names

And what about you? Do you have anything better to do?

>which would cause even more confusion than there normally is when trying to give directions around the unwieldy traffic grid

Everyone has GPS now, I don't imagine anyone would really give a shit if not for the race angle.

>fail to recall that there were and currently are plantations without slavery

Sure dude. All those famous slavery-free plantations.

>These people are just inventing problems.

"Oh no they're renaming a street" is inventing a problem too. Again, if this wasn't done for race-related reasons, you absolutely wouldn't care. If they were renaming a street to honor a local hero or just because it sounded better, nobody on the planet would give a shit.

Nu Kitchen. Can confirm that their coffee is usually pretty crappy. Not a bad spot for lunch though, or to set up shop and do some remote work.

>You first, since you're obviously offended by the idea of renaming a street, something nobody in the world cares about otherwise.

I'm offended by the idea that the medical school has nothing better to do than to pontificate about street names and then use it's weight to push an unwanted change in the city, which would cause even more confusion than there normally is when trying to give directions around the unwieldy traffic grid.

The idea that Plantation Street has a name that somehow causes people pain because it reminds that of plantations, and then they - adding an extra step themselves - remember that there was slavery on plantations, and fail to recall that there were and currently are plantations without slavery and many other places with slavery, is nonsensical.

These people are just inventing problems.

Which location?

Quinsigamond Plantation was the name of the first european settlement here. The name Quinsigamond itself has nothing to do with colonization and everything to do with the local natives.

You are using false equivalencies to support a very flawed argument.

As far as "today's slave labor", it has nothing to do with foreign slavery and everything to do with an attempt to correct mistakes of the past, and to not glorify any references to those mistakes. Its the exact same reason why confederate statues should be removed from public lands.

My favorite coffee here is Acoustic Java but it's not conveniently located for me. Same goes for New Tradition; I only go there when I'm getting a haircut at Heartland. Favorite coffee in my neighborhood is Root & Press, just wish they had better hours. They aren't open early enough for me to grab a cup before work. If you're in the area of Acoustic or New Tradition, I highly recommend those. Both have great product/service and a nice space to chill.

New Tradition is on radar, and the Redemption Rock note is killer insight! Thank you!

It's primarily a brewery but Redemption Rock does a good latte.

Also New Tradition.

Oh yeah for sure. They’re is 3 locations in the Worcester area as well

Acoustic Java

I bought a couch up in the bargain section a few years ago, it’s not a comfy as the day I bought it, but for the price and size (sectional in my first home) I’m happy with it. That said, I’d NEVER trust my spine to a mattress from them.

I drove by that place so the coffee is good?

I personally really like the Bean Counter. They have a lot of good vegan options as well

Thanks for the pointer. I took a quick look at the agenda and it looks like a lot of content for independent contractors (taxes, marketing). Do you also see some programming for novices?

What is Nu?

Also forgot to mention but acoustic java is really nice, good quality stuff with plenty of atmosphere to spare

Birchtree Bread is a phenomenal popular spot, and Root and Press is a personal fav of mine and my fiance. The staff at both are super nice, and R&P has plenty of dietary options available. I will say however that Birchtree has gotten drink orders wrong plenty of times, so just be aware of that. And stay far, far away from Nu.

Wow, you are one triggered melty little snowflake. I bet you arent even from this city. "Native" my ass 🤣

>What next? Change cotton to “funnsies”? Cotton is a word people relate to plantations which is related to slavery = racist. What about “farm” or “crop”? Aren’t those related to plantations and therefore racist too?

"If things were different, then they would be different. Checkmate."

The connection between plantations and slavery is very obvious and common. Adding extra steps and saying "well wouldn't it be ridiculous if they did this next" is irrelevant, because they haven't done that. This is basically like arguing that if the government bans drunk driving, then the next step is to ban driving entirely.

>Stop trying to be offended by everything.

You first, since you're obviously offended by the idea of renaming a street, something nobody in the world cares about otherwise.

Lol the one time I went there the guy opened a credit card in my name. I was like dude, you literally just stole my identity.

I think it is just virtue signaling. Quinsigamond was the name of the plantation. They do not want want to change the name of the lake closest to them.

Does UMass go through every product they purchase to make sure today's slave labor is not use to produce those products?

If they wanted to fight oppression, they could do it, changing a street name does nothing but put a feather in their cap.

Not surprised. Haven’t seen Bernie on TV in years.