Its 100% virtue signaling. We need to focus our energy and resources on things like the trash covered streets, high taxes, the increasing unaffordability of the area, drugs and crime.

Why?

Rhode Island changed their name, btw:

https://www.necn.com/news/local/a-year-after-rhode-island-changed-its-name-many-buildings-still-say-plantations/2621540/

It's not that big a deal, TBH.

>Just stop. Stop trying to be offended by everything. Just. Stop.

That's funny.

You can check out the Department of Education to find out the demographics.

Wow! Should he choose the town or just skip it? I am not sure how good Worcester schools are? Especially given the fact my cousin's son has autism?

When I saw on Census Data, most of the Asians over in Shrewsbury/Westborough are Indian/South Asian. I am curious since my cousin, his wife, and his son are Vietnamese, where should they live? It is very hard to find a town with good public schools with many Vietnamese in Massachusetts as Cambridge, Brookline, Belmont, Newton, Lexington, Natick, Weston, Wellesley all have relatively few Vietnamese, but these towns have a high Chinese population by the way. I came across this map and this map might be helpful.

https://www.bostonplans.org/getattachment/b8d7569f-8de8-4518-b219-b1c0326b56f5#:~:text=The%2053%2C700%20Vietnamese%20in%20Massachusetts,Randolph%2C%20Lowell%2C%20and%20Worcester.&text=Boston%20Vietnamese%20predominantly%20live%20in%20Dorchester.

Meanwhile they're handing out free cable and internet to everyone it seemed like. Had a guy from charter trying to sign people up for it at my apartment the other day, he was there looking for residents who pre-qualified. He asked me if I was any of them, then for help locating their apartments, and we got to talking. Basically anyone on any sort of government assistance can get free cable and internet right now. People in college/school also can get a reduced rate.

Meanwhile we get stuck with an $80month shit tier only internet plan.

No? That's literally not my argument. It has nothing to do with who named the street, it's that in the United States the word "plantation" is inextricably linked to the Atlantic Slave Trade. This is not a question. The majority of Africans taken from Africa ended up on Sugar Cane plantations in the Carribean. The majority of Slaves in America ended up on cash crop plantations in the South. The slave trade picked up and expanded specifically because these plantations needed labor. They only started to use paid labor when they ran out of slaves to use. Even if you want to argue that some people within the plantation economy system didn't use slaves, the vast, vast majority of them did. Are you starting to see a link between the word plantation and slavery?

I just tried the Acoustic Java near Rotman's and recommend it.

I also love New Tradition. I think it's on Jackson Street in the Main South area.

iKrave on Park Ave doesn't get enough recognition. It's good for more of a donut shop style coffee and iced coffee. They have some great muffins and other baked good, too. Definitely not that hipster vibe you get at the first two places but it's been my go to for a quick morning coffee before work.

Worcester proper has a decent Vietnamese community. There are specific businesses that advertise in Vietnamese.

Holden is white, but very nice.

Holden is Wachusett regional school, which is a district made up of Holden, Sterling, Paxton, Rutland, and I think another town. Holden is the nicest and most diverse of them - but all are very good towns.

Massachusetts is very different than orange county! From Holden you can be in 3 different states in half an hour. Distance is different. Almost anywhere in central mass is an easy commute to abbvie

I like this!

Why stop at the city name, rename Massachusetts

>Yes that people who did not own slaves could still take part in a system that relies on slavery. This isn't some fucking galaxy brain take.

You do realize there are more slaves today than in the history of the US. You buying goods that are globally sourced today is contributing more to slave labor than the colonists ever have.

You are using more slave labor because of your nikes, iPhone, and solar panels than were ever used on plantations.

Shrewsbury is Indian and south Asian, not SE Asian.

Your argument is weird. The name Plantation Street is bad because it is connected to the people who founded this country, since it was created by people who founded the country, and even though it's not referring to a slave plantation, it was named by people who could have had slaves, so it's therefore a slavery-reminiscent name?

Also, we did "extricate the word 'Plantation' in America from the practice of slavery." Every single day, thousands of people in this city alone use the word "plantation" without thinking of anything aside from a street that runs from Rice Square past Lincoln Plaza to Northeast Cutoff.

Yes that people who did not own slaves could still take part in a system that relies on slavery. This isn't some fucking galaxy brain take. The point is that you can't "Not All Plantation Owners!" away the fact that in America the word is inextricably linked with the Atlantic Slave Trade.

This is all entirely seperate from the fact that Quinsigamond Village and Quinsigamond Plantation are basically the same thing. QP was more like a homestead than a plantation in the traditional sense. So people getting bent out of shape about the fucking plantation part are ONLY getting pissy because of the race/slavery aspect.

But I hope it’s not turned into more luxury apartments for out of town wealthy folks.

>Even if a specific plantation owner didn't own slaves and used entirely paid labor (which is a massive if) they were all part of a system that relied on slavery for sustainability.

Do you understand what you are saying right now?

Don’t know if I mentioned in last thread but for Sushi my favorite is Yama Sakura in Northboro

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>Leave the street signs alone and dismantle the school-to-prison broken home-to-prison pipeline, already.

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I guess we need to rename the city also. Worcester has ties to wars with natives.

I did not see much information about slavery on Quinsigamond Plantation in your link. Much more like a passing comment.

>By the way - did anyone in this thread defending the name "Plantation St" know literally anything about Quinsigamond Plantation before today?

I like to learn about the history of my surroundings, so yes, I did.

>I don't know if it had African slaves

Who said anything about where the slaves originated from? I asked about slaves. Does it matter where the slaves came from? Are certain slaves more oppressed in history than others?

Why is UMass not addressing today's slaves. The slaves that make the stainless steel for their medical instruments, the solar panels for their green initiative. Does UMass only get their fuel for their generators and life flight from areas that do not oppress women?

Pushing to change the name of a street because of the word plantation is about as shallow as you can get.

Overall Massachusetts is a great place for Asian Americans, in my opinion. Shrewsbury Public school has a 33.6% Asian enrollment rate. Hopkinton 26.4%. Grafton 13%. Unfortunately Holden doesn't publish its demographic numbers. I would definitely look at the enrollment figures over the town demographics because there are a lot of old people in these towns who have no children in the schools.

Since house prices won't really matter, I'd pick Shrewsbury. It's a great place and very close to Abbvie.